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Posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
Ugh... hi....
There is something, something on my mind... constantly, obsessively, that I've never told anyone about cuz I always have to hold on to that "strong, tough" appearance.
I was with this guy... for 5 years. We had one of those story book, movie romances, that just didn't seem real. It sounds like such a cliche... but it is so true. I never, ever felt so souly connected(for those who believe in that) to anyone in my life. This was the kind of love, where 5 years later.... as an example, he would come home from work... come bashing thru the front door and jump on me and hug me and tell me how much he missed me. Puppy love from beginning to end. Never fought... always laughed.... always brightened up when we saw each other. Exactly 1 year and 4 months ago he just picked up and left. with a "dear Kristi" letter. He had a dream of being in a band.... he felt he had it.... ya know, half the men in this world's dream. He was leaving for Iowa.. to meet up with some friends to be in a band. "l'll miss you." That was it. Haven't heard from him since.I think about him every single day of my life. At least every hour. Wondering what he's doing, what he's thinking, where he is... even if he's alive. Most importantly... WHY DID HE LEAVE???? We had all these wonderful dreams together. A fantastic future planned.
I have dated and "loved" since... but there will never be anyone like him. I just ache to hear his voice... and to think that was all "fake" on his part... all we shared... just crushes me. Crushes human faith. What could cause someone to do that? I don't know,... I'm a woman.... and I chalk it up to that we need closure thing. I have to accept I'll never get it. Any guy's out there have any ideas? I know i'll just never know. That's the hardest part.
I would give anything just to hear his voice. Isn't there a statute of limitations for getting over someone?????? Sorry to vent.... but what better place for it. Thanks to all to read.
Sar.... I really want a cig right now.
Kristi
Posted by susan C on September 27, 2001, at 11:03:18
In reply to Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
This is a place where your soul can be bared...isn't it. I saw 'something about mary' and 'never been kissed' the last two days...are we psychic?
I am not a guy, but part of what you describe is what happend to me and my first 'love'. He just told me to stop seeing him...he never never talked about it. Of, course, from my side, I cant remember ASKing him...it has been a long time...
Have you looked for him? To draw 'closure'?
Here's a cyber hug from me, and I am glad you haven't been smoking, you smell better 8;o)
mouse with the remote control
susan c> Ugh... hi....
> There is something, something on my mind... constantly, obsessively, that I've never told anyone about cuz I always have to hold on to that "strong, tough" appearance.
> I was with this guy... for 5 years. We had one of those story book, movie romances, that just didn't seem real. It sounds like such a cliche... but it is so true. I never, ever felt so souly connected(for those who believe in that) to anyone in my life. This was the kind of love, where 5 years later.... as an example, he would come home from work... come bashing thru the front door and jump on me and hug me and tell me how much he missed me. Puppy love from beginning to end. Never fought... always laughed.... always brightened up when we saw each other. Exactly 1 year and 4 months ago he just picked up and left. with a "dear Kristi" letter. He had a dream of being in a band.... he felt he had it.... ya know, half the men in this world's dream. He was leaving for Iowa.. to meet up with some friends to be in a band. "l'll miss you." That was it. Haven't heard from him since.
>
> I think about him every single day of my life. At least every hour. Wondering what he's doing, what he's thinking, where he is... even if he's alive. Most importantly... WHY DID HE LEAVE???? We had all these wonderful dreams together. A fantastic future planned.
>
> I have dated and "loved" since... but there will never be anyone like him. I just ache to hear his voice... and to think that was all "fake" on his part... all we shared... just crushes me. Crushes human faith. What could cause someone to do that? I don't know,... I'm a woman.... and I chalk it up to that we need closure thing. I have to accept I'll never get it. Any guy's out there have any ideas? I know i'll just never know. That's the hardest part.
>
> I would give anything just to hear his voice. Isn't there a statute of limitations for getting over someone?????? Sorry to vent.... but what better place for it. Thanks to all to read.
>
> Sar.... I really want a cig right now.
>
> Kristi
Posted by fluffykitty on September 27, 2001, at 12:10:32
In reply to Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
>Exactly 1 year and 4 months ago he just picked
>up and left. with a "dear Kristi" letter. HeIm sorry. I feel really badly for you.
>had a dream of being in a band.... he felt he >had it.... ya know, half the men in this world's
>hear his voice... and to think that was >all "fake" on his part... all we shared... just >crushes me. Crushes human faith. What could
>cause someone to do that? I don't know,... I'mI have a few things to say about this.
First it may not have been fake on his part. You dont really know that. With guys I think there are other things that factor in.
One of course is the whole commitment thing, another is how people in general, man or woman, deal with issues about being with someone for a long period of time and what they want to do in thier life. Some people are able to reconcile being with someone and pursuing thier dreams. Others are not. Or maybe they just need some excuse to break it off cause they cant deal with it for whatever reason. Or maybe they are just free spirits who can never belong to anyone.
He couldve just talked to you and said he wanted to do this and continue the relationship on a different level or different way, the long distance thing for a while or you both moving or something. But for whatever reason, maybe one of the above, he chose not to. There is no reason why anyone would "fake" it for 5 years. If anything maybe it was too real. Who knows.I think this is the reason why women after awhile of this when going out with a guy press for a firm commitment within a year and then want to get married soon after. To weed out the potential runaways from the ones who can stay with them. And if they dont then just break it off.
I think for many, perhaps most guys, its not really always the right woman but the right time. It may have been a right woman but it just wasnt the right time.
fk
Posted by paxvox on September 27, 2001, at 12:47:21
In reply to Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
Oh, this can be a tough answer, but I'll take a swing. First, I guess, be happy you DID have those years of loving bliss, some never get a day. That being said, let's look at some solutions. You could try to find your closure through several counsellor-assisted processes, namely EMDR and hypnotherapy. The therapist would deal with your loss (because that's really what it was) as a tragic event in your life that needs to be healed. I know this may sound hokey, but it has worked for a lot of people, especially those with PTSD. Are you involved with someone now? I have had those "true loves" at least twice, one unrequited. I still have dreams about one girl I haven't seen in 25 years (how's that for holding on!). Do you think there are "soulmates"? I don't know the answer to that question. I know there were times that I was so deeply in love that my heart flitterpated whenever I saw her. Oh, those were beautiful days. Would I have done without them to avoid the loss? No. Every emotion, event, day of our life is another layer of the fabric that makes us the people we are. To put it philisophically, how can you really appreciate great joy w/o having had great sorrow? I would say, cherish those memories. Do not blame yourself for the loss. You were not the problem. However, at the same time, you need to move forward, everpresent with the knowledge of the past. We are what we are.
PAX in space
Posted by Kristi on September 28, 2001, at 18:33:36
In reply to Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
Posted by Zo on September 29, 2001, at 3:13:12
In reply to Re: Getting it all out, posted by fluffykitty on September 27, 2001, at 12:10:32
I have like *totally* heard this, hard as it is for a woman to believe: men marry when they feel it's the right TIME. . and can let the Right Woman go if it's not.
Talk about the differences between the sexes--how freaking infuriating is that.
Zo
Posted by Zo on September 29, 2001, at 3:14:49
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Kristi, posted by paxvox on September 27, 2001, at 12:47:21
Pax! That is so damn good! I'm keeping it. To read again.
Thanks,
Zo
Posted by Marie1 on September 29, 2001, at 15:54:00
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Kristi, posted by paxvox on September 27, 2001, at 12:47:21
Pax,
I agree with Zo - that was beautifully written. Do you have kids? You should, if coming up with gems like that is easy for you.
Could you be my first true love from 25 years ago who I let get away? I wonder if he ever thinks of me that way.Marie
> Oh, this can be a tough answer, but I'll take a swing. First, I guess, be happy you DID have those years of loving bliss, some never get a day. That being said, let's look at some solutions. You could try to find your closure through several counsellor-assisted processes, namely EMDR and hypnotherapy. The therapist would deal with your loss (because that's really what it was) as a tragic event in your life that needs to be healed. I know this may sound hokey, but it has worked for a lot of people, especially those with PTSD. Are you involved with someone now? I have had those "true loves" at least twice, one unrequited. I still have dreams about one girl I haven't seen in 25 years (how's that for holding on!). Do you think there are "soulmates"? I don't know the answer to that question. I know there were times that I was so deeply in love that my heart flitterpated whenever I saw her. Oh, those were beautiful days. Would I have done without them to avoid the loss? No. Every emotion, event, day of our life is another layer of the fabric that makes us the people we are. To put it philisophically, how can you really appreciate great joy w/o having had great sorrow? I would say, cherish those memories. Do not blame yourself for the loss. You were not the problem. However, at the same time, you need to move forward, everpresent with the knowledge of the past. We are what we are.
>
>
> PAX in space
Posted by Zo on September 29, 2001, at 19:09:50
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » paxvox, posted by Marie1 on September 29, 2001, at 15:54:00
> Could you be my first true love from 25 years ago who I let get away? I wonder if he ever thinks of me that way.
>
> Marie
Hey! I saw him first!
Posted by paxvox on September 29, 2001, at 20:18:41
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Marie1, posted by Zo on September 29, 2001, at 19:09:50
I don't think I'm any type of prototypical male,more than likely atypical. I was a momma's boy, and learned very young and tender to appreciate the warm times, the happy times. I was always one to listen much longer than I would speak. I became many girls' best buddy (some I really wish I had the courage to ask out). However, I learned a great deal about emotions and how to emote. When I went away to college, I again, became all the girls' best buddy. This time, however, I found one that I loved very deeply. I tried as hard as I could to make her see me as more than just a friend. Though we became intimate briefly, I was more of a convienient surrogate than her lover. I graduated college, and went to grad school where she was coincidently doing a one-year fellowship for her degree. Oh, how I thought the gods were smiling on me! Surely I would be able to win her love. But it was not to be. I was her friend, which was just enough for her. How much of me would I have cleaved away to have won her over? Would it have been worth it? Would I have become who I am today? Questions never to be answered. Am I better or worse for having had "those few fleeting moments of bliss, however ephemeral"? I learned how to lose a love. I learned that the sun will rise again tomorrow, seasons will come and go. Would I do it over again knowing the same outcome? Yes. Flat emotion is not life. Flat life is existing not living. To zestfully greet each new dawn as a fresh chance, full of hope, full of possibility,full of uncertainty, but FULL none the less. That is living, and that is what I choose to do.
PAX
In the mood
Posted by Kristi on September 29, 2001, at 21:34:34
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Kristi, posted by paxvox on September 27, 2001, at 12:47:21
>
In a nutshell.... to all have responded, thanx. I know all this to be true. It's exactly what I tell a person going thru the same thing. I just can't get a handle on it. It's like, I have a psychology degree.... never went into the field because I couldn't figure myself out... wouldn't dare take the chance of messing someone else up. I know exactly whats wrong with me, what's going on... how to fix it... I just can't.
To be honest with you pavox... your a great guy, wish their were more like you(my brother is one) but their arent. And believe it or not... I wish I didn't love at all.... compared to the hurt. It won't go away.... I miss this guy obsessively.. I just want to know if he's even alive. I know everyone hates to get rejected. I have talked to my therapist... and myself.... I just wish I can apply what I've learned. I don't know how much of you have followed my other posts, probably all archived now, about what's going on in my life... but it all just adds to it. All the sudden I'm also loosing friends left and right because I don't have the courage to let them see me like this. It just all.... sucks.
Thanks for your encouragement and words... everyone. I mean it. Kristi
Oh, this can be a tough answer, but I'll take a swing. First, I guess, be happy you DID have those years of loving bliss, some never get a day. That being said, let's look at some solutions. You could try to find your closure through several counsellor-assisted processes, namely EMDR and hypnotherapy. The therapist would deal with your loss (because that's really what it was) as a tragic event in your life that needs to be healed. I know this may sound hokey, but it has worked for a lot of people, especially those with PTSD. Are you involved with someone now? I have had those "true loves" at least twice, one unrequited. I still have dreams about one girl I haven't seen in 25 years (how's that for holding on!). Do you think there are "soulmates"? I don't know the answer to that question. I know there were times that I was so deeply in love that my heart flitterpated whenever I saw her. Oh, those were beautiful days. Would I have done without them to avoid the loss? No. Every emotion, event, day of our life is another layer of the fabric that makes us the people we are. To put it philisophically, how can you really appreciate great joy w/o having had great sorrow? I would say, cherish those memories. Do not blame yourself for the loss. You were not the problem. However, at the same time, you need to move forward, everpresent with the knowledge of the past. We are what we are.
>
>
> PAX in space
Posted by Kristi on September 29, 2001, at 21:38:04
In reply to Re: Getting it all out, posted by Zo on September 29, 2001, at 3:13:12
> I have like *totally* heard this, hard as it is for a woman to believe: men marry when they feel it's the right TIME. . and can let the Right Woman go if it's not.
>
> Talk about the differences between the sexes--how freaking infuriating is that.
>
> ZoFRUSTRATING AS HELL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by Marie1 on September 30, 2001, at 8:34:29
In reply to Re: Getting it all out (nm) » Kristi, posted by Marie1 on September 30, 2001, at 8:26:14
Kristi,
I posted this yesterday, but for some reason it didn't show up. I know this is a common platitude, routinely said, but I sincerely think it is *his* loss. Life sucks, people you love die and others move on. Don't lose yourself in this. You have so much to give someone else.
So my husband and I were thinking of taking advantage of the practically non-existent fares to Las Vegas. I don't gamble (bor-ing), so I'll have some free time. Do you still need help washing your hair? Don't want to intrude; let me know.
Marie
Posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 13:03:13
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Marie1, posted by Marie1 on September 30, 2001, at 8:34:29
Thanx Marie...
And I really DO believe it's his loss.. but I know he doesn't see it that way. I want him to feel a little. That was the problem with him. He never *felt* anything.
So your coming here? Cool,.... when? Do you know where your staying yet?
What a nice offer.... brought a tear to my eye.. but I'm doing ok. Working again... and living an *almost*normal life. I'm limited in what I can do, but not too bad. Thank you.
But it would be great if you want to call me or something while Your hear? Or maybe chat a while? If your here even long enough,... get together? Let me know your plans.
I have family coming down next week so that giving me something to look forward to.Have you ever been here?
Take care. Kristi> Kristi,
> I posted this yesterday, but for some reason it didn't show up. I know this is a common platitude, routinely said, but I sincerely think it is *his* loss. Life sucks, people you love die and others move on. Don't lose yourself in this. You have so much to give someone else.
> So my husband and I were thinking of taking advantage of the practically non-existent fares to Las Vegas. I don't gamble (bor-ing), so I'll have some free time. Do you still need help washing your hair? Don't want to intrude; let me know.
> Marie
Posted by galtin on September 30, 2001, at 16:00:02
In reply to Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 27, 2001, at 2:39:15
> Ugh... hi....
> There is something, something on my mind... constantly, obsessively, that I've never told anyone about cuz I always have to hold on to that "strong, tough" appearance.
> I was with this guy... for 5 years. We had one of those story book, movie romances, that just didn't seem real. It sounds like such a cliche... but it is so true. I never, ever felt so souly connected(for those who believe in that) to anyone in my life. This was the kind of love, where 5 years later.... as an example, he would come home from work... come bashing thru the front door and jump on me and hug me and tell me how much he missed me. Puppy love from beginning to end. Never fought... always laughed.... always brightened up when we saw each other. Exactly 1 year and 4 months ago he just picked up and left. with a "dear Kristi" letter. He had a dream of being in a band.... he felt he had it.... ya know, half the men in this world's dream. He was leaving for Iowa.. to meet up with some friends to be in a band. "l'll miss you." That was it. Haven't heard from him since.
>
> I think about him every single day of my life. At least every hour. Wondering what he's doing, what he's thinking, where he is... even if he's alive. Most importantly... WHY DID HE LEAVE???? We had all these wonderful dreams together. A fantastic future planned.
>
> I have dated and "loved" since... but there will never be anyone like him. I just ache to hear his voice... and to think that was all "fake" on his part... all we shared... just crushes me. Crushes human faith. What could cause someone to do that? I don't know,... I'm a woman.... and I chalk it up to that we need closure thing. I have to accept I'll never get it. Any guy's out there have any ideas? I know i'll just never know. That's the hardest part.
>
> I would give anything just to hear his voice. Isn't there a statute of limitations for getting over someone?????? Sorry to vent.... but what better place for it. Thanks to all to read.
>
> Sar.... I really want a cig right now.
>
> KristiMore a question than anything else. I have wondered before whether a difference between females and males is that women fall in love with the person whereas men are captivated by the experience. So, the guys can take it (the experience) with them.
Something similar happened to me--we were six days from our scheduled wedding when the other person fled. I didn't start getting over it until I talked about it with other people. Something about the talking helped me to integrate what had happened, instead of it continuing to exist as an event outside me. It went from feeling traumatic to feeling sad and it took quite awhile. No closure either and I still wish there could be. Maybe it will happen some day.
I feel the hurt and confusion in your post. I don't know what you should do or even if you should do anything. But if you haven't talked to people about it, that might help relieve the obsession. I detest talking about my emotions but when I do, I am amazed how healing it is.
galtin
Posted by paxvox on September 30, 2001, at 18:42:28
In reply to Re: Getting it all out, posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 13:03:13
Kristi,
Nail on the head there! You said your family coming was "something to look forward to". That means you do have something to enjoy in your life. When all one has to "look forward to" is getting out of bed then waiting until it's time to go back to bed, with some stuff thrown in between the two, life can be terrifying. I can't tell you how many of the "bad" days that I have had when at least the bed, and hopefully sleep, were a haven, a respite. Out of curiosity, how old are you? This may seem a moot question, but it would help me to put you in perspective, so to speak. I don't claim to have all the answers, but somtimes I can be of assistance. I know you are a complex person by reading your posts. That intrigues me, as I like to find other complex people ( I consider myself VERY complex...I hope that doesn't sound boastful) to interact with. If nothing else, I am willing to be a sounding board for your entertainment, as it were. The way I see it, this board is a melange of different people, all with one singular goal...."what is up with me"? I have found great support from some (like the mouse-woman) from whom I received what I felt to be genuine concern and interest. When you boil it all down, that is the essence of humanity. Anywho....keep us "posted" :)
PAX
on the couch
Posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 23:20:14
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » Kristi, posted by paxvox on September 30, 2001, at 18:42:28
Hi!!!!First off.. I have definately experienced those "just couldn't wait to go back to sleep days". Still have em' unfortunately. Work has been my life line... my goal is "I will not be homeless, I will not be homeless"... so I must work... and I must put on a facade of happiness (how social I am = how much money goes in my pocket.) But on my days off... forget about it. Today for example, I woke up... watched tv, cried.. listened to some self hypnotic tapes to fall back to sleep for another hour, wake up.. and do it over and over again. So, that feeling is still there. But with the family coming, I have to "fake" it.. as not to worry anyone, so I feel normal for a little while.
I'm sorry for those days you yourself have. It's the worst pain in the world, and I am no stranger to both physical and mental.
I have to agree with you... you are complex...and one who's posts I'll read even if it has nothing to do with me, just to hear your train of thought.
Thankx for your offer to be a sounding board. Right back at ya, altho I admit I get lazy... say "I want to write to this one" but get off the computer with every intention of getting back on at a later time and doing just that, but it doesn't seem to happen that way. You see, I recently quit smoking, and the computer is a pretty big trigger point for me.
So..... "what is up with me?" :-) I am a 33 year old cocktail waitress in Las Vegas who's had some pretty intense medical problems in the past few years, and some pretty intense emotional as well, and some pretty intense exprerience with AD's which they all say I need. They do me know good. I'm obviously single right now, and just waiting for life to get better. That part probably describes us all.
So..... reciprocate.... whats up with you?
P.s. I agree... I very much like the mouse that creeps on the board.
Thanks for the intrest,
Krisi> Kristi,
>
> Nail on the head there! You said your family coming was "something to look forward to". That means you do have something to enjoy in your life. When all one has to "look forward to" is getting out of bed then waiting until it's time to go back to bed, with some stuff thrown in between the two, life can be terrifying. I can't tell you how many of the "bad" days that I have had when at least the bed, and hopefully sleep, were a haven, a respite. Out of curiosity, how old are you? This may seem a moot question, but it would help me to put you in perspective, so to speak. I don't claim to have all the answers, but somtimes I can be of assistance. I know you are a complex person by reading your posts. That intrigues me, as I like to find other complex people ( I consider myself VERY complex...I hope that doesn't sound boastful) to interact with. If nothing else, I am willing to be a sounding board for your entertainment, as it were. The way I see it, this board is a melange of different people, all with one singular goal...."what is up with me"? I have found great support from some (like the mouse-woman) from whom I received what I felt to be genuine concern and interest. When you boil it all down, that is the essence of humanity. Anywho....keep us "posted" :)
>
> PAX
> on the couch
Posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 23:26:47
In reply to Re: Getting it all out Kristi, posted by galtin on September 30, 2001, at 16:00:02
> More a question than anything else. I have wondered before whether a difference between females and males is that women fall in love with the person whereas men are captivated by the experience. So, the guys can take it (the experience) with them.
Very good question. And if that is the case, it kind of makes me feel a little better.... like, maybe I'm not to blame, it's nothing I did...
> Something similar happened to me--we were six days from our scheduled wedding when the other person fled. I didn't start getting over it until I talked about it with other people. Something about the talking helped me to integrate what had happened, instead of it continuing to exist as an event outside me. It went from feeling traumatic to feeling sad and it took quite awhile. No closure either and I still wish there could be. Maybe it will happen some day.
I'm sorry for you. I just get this gut wrenching feeling thinking of anyone going thru it... just because I know it so well. Maybe you are right. I am such a "private" person... I'm afraid to spill... that maybe people will run, and I'll be rejected again. It's just so safe to keep it inside. But who knows, I will heed your advice, and hopefully think of someone comfortable enough to do this with.> I feel the hurt and confusion in your post. I don't know what you should do or even if you should do anything. But if you haven't talked to people about it, that might help relieve the obsession. I detest talking about my emotions but when I do, I am amazed how healing it is.
I detest talking about my emotions. Wow... how in sinc I am with that statement. Ugh. I don't want to be that way... besides, I'm a woman... aren't I supposed to get it all out? :-) I was just brought up that it's week to cry, complain, etc. I do want to be healed tho. I keep thinking of that age old claim.... time heals all wounds. Thanks for reaching out.....
> galtin
Posted by galtin on October 1, 2001, at 22:18:15
In reply to Re: Getting it all out Kristi-galtin, posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 23:26:47
But who knows, I will heed your advice, and hopefully think of someone comfortable enough to do this with.
kristi-"Sharing," as they so benignly call it in AA, is a bitch. I didn't get all chatty because it seemed like such a neat idea. A number of years ago I finally got the fact that I had a choice. I could either stop hoarding my emotions and start talking, or I could drink myself to death within the year. It was very, very hard at first and today I still sometimes need to grit my teeth.
Sometimes its funny. I think I have been the model of honesty, only to realize the next day that what I said was a bunch of bull. I am very easily deceived--by my own self. Which is another reason why I have to talk to others. They can tell me what they are hearing and this may be quite different from what I think I am saying. At this stage of my life, anyway, I learn more about myself from other people's reactions to my various "self-disclosures" than I would from a year of self-reflection.
I used to luxuriate in self-reflection. What I really loved, thoug, was first my own ego and second the illusory sense of safety.
When I started down the new path I hated it. I thought I was uniquely cursed to have this humiliating and undignified ordeal forced on me by fate. But like so many things, the more I did it, the less difficult it got. I have sometimes revealed more than I should have to somebody and then later felt betrayed or used. But whether I confronted this louse or not, I got over it and very slowly I started to get freed from my need to control how other people think of me.
I also found out, by the way, that other people think about me far less than I used to think they did.
I have been doing this for a number of years now. Sometimes it still seems like hard work, especially after I have lapsed into a period of isolation. But if I don't do it, my emotions feed chaotically on themselves, and I start to feel like somebody I don't want to live with.
I didn't mean to go on and on. But I know so well how the locked soul feels and I hope you can begin to liberate yours. I bet for you that it would turn out to be worth the trouble.
galtin
Posted by Roo on October 2, 2001, at 9:08:28
In reply to Re: Getting it all out Kristi-galtin-kristi, posted by galtin on October 1, 2001, at 22:18:15
Galtin--That's good stuff. I'm going to print that out.
I feel very similar. Thanks for sharing that--it
did me a lot of good.
Posted by Wendy B. on October 2, 2001, at 14:21:12
In reply to Re: Getting it all out Galtin, posted by Roo on October 2, 2001, at 9:08:28
>
> Galtin--
>
> That's good stuff. I'm going to print that out.
> I feel very similar. Thanks for sharing that--it
> did me a lot of good.me too, thanks Galtin.
Posted by Zo on October 4, 2001, at 1:27:18
In reply to Re: Getting it all out, posted by paxvox on September 29, 2001, at 20:18:41
Posted by paxvox on October 4, 2001, at 12:24:01
In reply to Would you please not do that to me. (nm) » paxvox, posted by Zo on October 4, 2001, at 1:27:18
Do what, Zo? Or was that not for me?
PAX
Posted by paxvox on October 4, 2001, at 12:43:30
In reply to Re: Getting it all out » paxvox, posted by Kristi on September 30, 2001, at 23:20:14
Sorry for the delay in posting, I have been doing other things for a few days. Well, the PAX is a soon-to-be 42 year old fellow, MWC,and fairly insane. But seriously, I am into my second decade of "depression" in its generic form. That's almost funny, as nobody seems to get that classic depression DX, and really, I don't make that DX code either. Looks to be the ole 300.03 OCD according to my Pdoc's filing with my insurance company. Personally, I would say I have GAD compounded by OCD occasionally exacerbated by SAD. But Im no authority mind you. Hope you know when to laugh in this post, if not, I'll put ** in future posts to let you know when I'm trying to be humorous. Too much Spam I think.
PAX
Posted by Zo on October 4, 2001, at 18:40:08
In reply to Re: Would you please not do that to me. » Zo, posted by paxvox on October 4, 2001, at 12:24:01
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