Posted by Shy_Girl on May 18, 2005, at 21:25:13
In reply to Re: History of psychiatry is disturbing *trigger* » Shy_Girl, posted by alexandra_k on May 18, 2005, at 1:00:46
> I don't know how things are done in the US...
> Over here if someone is sectioned under the mental health act for compulsory assessment and treatment for more than 14 days then they have to appear before a judge. They have the right to appeal the section. The judge can (and sometimes does) decide that the p-doc shouldn't have sectioned the client. There wasn't grounds to.I actually live in Canada. I think a judge is needed to back-up the decision if the patient wants to challenge a stay of more than 3 days. In my case, I was only locked up for 3 days, so there was nothing I could do.
> My p-doc spent a lot of time in court defending his decisions. That is part of the process... It looks bad if too many of your decisions get reversed by the judge - so the safe-guards are actually pretty good.I'm sure my p-doc would never lock me up...she totally respects my decisions. The only reason why I was locked up was because no one bothered to call my p-doc about whether or not to lock me up. BTW, that is how I see it...being locked up, like in a jail.
> Hmm.
> You still have rights.
> Did you ask anyone for information on your rights?Yes I did. I asked nicely again and again and again for the nurse to let me see a copy of the mental health act. I also repeatedly asked to see a lawyer, but apparently it wouldn't have done a thing in my case. It was soooo fustrating in there. BTW, there IS discrimination there. I would never have been ignored that way out in the real world!
> But sometimes nurses (especially) get f*cked off and say all sorts of crazy sh*t...
Ya, it was only when I forced myself to be extra *nice* and *patient* that the nurses started to give me some attention. I wonder if it is some sort of behaviour modification thing...punish me by ignoring me when I'm "bad" and giving me attention when I'm "good"?
> > I should've acted extra crazy in there, they expect that don't they?
> And that...
> might just show them that you are at risk of making impulsive decisions...
> might show them that you are in fact a danger to yourself...
> might show them that you don't want their help.I did kind of have a little tantrum in there, after being ignored for so long. I was so angry that I moved a chair out pass the "Do not cross line" and sat there...staring at the guy at the nurse's station with a dirty look on my face. After a while a nurse made me go back to my room...then I was angry and decided to throw some M&Ms down the little hall pass the line that leads to the exit.
Then the nurse talked some sense into me...she said that the p-docs where looking to see if I had insight and if I was impulsive and that my throwing things wasn't helping me. I really wanted to get the h*ll outta there, so I had to suck it up and comply.
Anyways, that place was horrible...no freedom to do anything. No freaking locks to the bathrooms! What the f*ck? G*d d*mn *t, if I ever, find myself back in that h*llh*le, I'll freaking show them...I'll f*cking hang myself...that'll show them how useful their "help" was.
> I know it is hard...
> I know that it can be hard...
> But...
> One has to try and make them *want* to help you
> If you want their help.I didn't *need* their help...all I needed was a little medical help for my nonlethal overdose...that was all.
> But when things turn to custard...
> Then you do ask for help.
> Life situations do make people feel happy or sad
> But typically...
> Not suicidal.I wasn't even suicidal when I was locked up. I *became* suicidal AFTER being locked up. They probably gave me PTSD...the m'er f'ers. And, so what if I'm suicidal...it's not like I'm homicidal...it is my own business what I want to do with *MY* life.
Thanks Alexandra for trying to help
poster:Shy_Girl
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