Posted by JadeKelly on November 26, 2008, at 21:37:54
In reply to Re: no stims/no benz BEST NARDIL AUGMENTION d/r, posted by that_guy23 on November 26, 2008, at 18:33:26
> Hey again,
Hey Shawn!
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> I'm glad you found someone to relate to. Has he helped out much with the parnate? This would be the same guy who had experience in nardil as well? nardil2007 was it? I'm not completely familiar with all of this, so should I start anew thread asking his advice, or just post somewhere uder wher he has already?
Yeah, he's great for Parnate advice, but you've already posted back and forth on another thread. Not sure he's the one you'd want further advice from re: Nardil. He's been off it for a while, and you've come too far to quit now. I do have a couple questions though. Did you just get that initial "great mood thing" or does it come back for a few days when you increase dose? Or maybe that didn't happen due to 105mg. Btw-I saw somewhere people DO go up to 105mg, she may have been trying to get you to remission quickly and over did it. Now she's nervous, especially with stim requests.
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> On another note, I just know there is no chance of getting augmentation with this pdoc., not for nardil. If so it wouldn't be this soon. I've been on it for 12 weeks, so I have about 5-6 weeks to reach 4 months. I won't see her to raise my dose for another 2 weeks, leaves me on 90 for 3 weeks if she will even up it. If not that will be it, I will definately search for anotherpdoc.! She just seems more hard to get along with. This is only since the nardil, which I suggested. And have been suggesting things ever since, but I never really did this before. Do you think this would offend her?Shawn, this is about you, not her. I don't know if she'd be offended or not, but people request meds and switch Docs all the time. Please base this decision on what you feel in your gut is going to get you well the fastest!
I mean I beleive a patient shoud have some input, actually allot, on the drugs that there going to be using, not the doctor! Especially if they've reserached the hell out of it.
I agree totally!!
I mean am I wrong?
NO!
Don't most people suggest drugs they would like to try? It sure seems like it, after reading people hearing of a drug on here and other forums, then the next thing you know, there on it.
Yes, they do. Your only glitch is the previous drug use. Docs are going to be careful there as they should be. However, increasing your dose or adding a non addictive augment, I don't see the problem there, but I'm not a PDoc.
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> As for that old life style and what I have done in the past, it's not the path I want to end up down again. And like you said I am gonna push hopefully to 4 months, what about you? you gonna stick it out? keep me posted on the progress.We've come to far to turn back now!
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> I really have been pondering over whether to call another pdoc., but the second I see them I think I will lose her.I'm curious, my PDoc sees me for 15 minutes. Does your's also do therapy? If she does, could you agree to disagee about meds and just see her for therapy? It seems like you benefit from talking to her. She just pisses you off when it comes to meds, right?
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> It has been very hard, because I am sure there is no change in my SA. I was at a garage that my aunt had to go into, which I used to work. She had to drop off her car, so we had to go in and wait, I was so anxious and I don't know why. This is when I came home and went to bed, realizing twelve weeks gave me no progess.I can see why you'd be confused about what to do. So you have 4 weeks left then, right? You know, you set a goal, and even if it doesn't work, you did what you said you were going to do. I have some ideas for you if you do end up coming off Nardil. I think tho, you should add an augment SOON to see if that helps. I've heard a lot of people say that was all it took, an augment. But it has to be the right one based on your profile. I'll check around.
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> This sucks because somthing like provigil, which is a non-stim, but kinda acts as one, might help, or anything, It's getting much harder, and it all comes back to my doctor. Like I said she gave me 2 people, one is not a good pdoc., but seems to love prescribing drugs, the other one I'm not sure if he is as good, and I don't know how he would be about drugs. Shouldn't there be people I could see just to get options best for me, I mean it's my life.Well, IMHO, if you know what you want, I'd go with the one who likes to prescribe. UNLESS HE's PRESCRIBING STIMS!!!! I know I've beat this to death, but you don't want to relapse cause some Doc will prescribe anything. How do you know that by the way? Just curious. I'm surprised she'd give a Doc less conservative than she. Remember, this is about YOUR recovery. You can't worry about what she'll think. You can only do what your gut tells you.
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> On a lighter note, me and my brother are pretty close, well in the past few years we haven't seen each other alot, but we've always had that connection. When he called me to ask me to stand, he even asked if it bothered me that his best man was another guy, which happened to be his life long best friend. I was like I am just glad to be standing, of course I don't mind!You know, my older brother is probably my best friend. We tell each other everything. Its good to keep that connection going. Nothing like a good brother when the weather isn't so fair.
And yes I do play guitar and write songs, it's what gets me through allot of this sh*t! I used to be all punk rock. We werelike don't even mention anything else, in the old high school days. I still do love my punk, even a bit of emo, and allot of hardcore punk. But I love all kinds of music, no country, besides for Jonny Cash, which I guess is only part country. I'm trying to learn "tears in heaven", by clapton, but it is hard!
Thats just so cool. Eric Clapton is one of my all time favorites. I have several of his CD's. I used to cry when I would hear "tears in heaven". So sad. Beautiful song. Especially his awesome guitar playing! I wish I knew how to play an instrument. This will help you snag that dream girl your gonna get next summer, right??!! Haha.
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> Back to the sphycho, I mean psychchiatrist, oops. She also said to see how the cbt is going, and if I don't find it at least a little easier I am letting her know it's just not enough yet. Not that I want to quit, but a nudge would help it.Whats not enough yet? Your doing the journal, right? And your asking for a little help in getting started on the exposures, right? Where's the problem? Jeez!
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> sorry about the rant, just started typing and guess I really needed to vent.
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No rant, and no apology needed! Don't we apologize enough! lol. Glad to help someone your age who obviously wants to help himself so badly. I'd hate to see you get de-railed, because you didn't listen to your self. Btw-what does your family think? Are they weighing in on this? Just remember, if you can't do this anymore with current Doc, you CAN switch. IMHO, of course!> Thanks for listening, and helping me.
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> I would love your opinion on all of this.
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> thanks,
> Shawn
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Never a problem Shawn, we all gotta get help where we can find it, right? You're gonna get through this, and I can't wait to hear about it!~Your friend, Jade
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