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Re: Waiting on Judgement from High Court

Posted by alexandra_k on June 20, 2020, at 19:07:14

In reply to Re: Waiting on Judgement from High Court Lamdage22, posted by alexandra_k on June 20, 2020, at 18:45:12

I was reading recently that some academics in England are refusing to externally examine students work, now.

It is a little unclear to me what is going on...


The article said that the Universities were requiring their passports so they would know that they were allowed to work in England lawfully. But I don't think they were actually requiring their passports... They were requiring their *passport information* (those two things are quite different).

And apparently that was the last blow, or similar. Because they feel they are only paid nominally (say a few hundred pounds) for the task of reading and writing a examiners report on a thesis that could be up to 100,000 words.

I'm trying to understand...

People the Arts aren't typicall paid for peer reviewing. I think people in the Sciences often are. Or, perhaps it is fairer to say that certain journals hire or pay people to work as editors or sub-editors or whatever.

Peer reviewing is supposed to be 'quid pro quo'. Or... You help me get my publication out in a timely fashion (for the good of the person/s being published, for good of the journal) and then maybe... The journal can help you getting your articles published to high quality in a timely fashion by giving it to an appropriate peer reviewer (for you) and, uh, getting it out there in a timely fashion, uh quid pro quo.

So if you are persistently late getting your reviews back. If you delay and hold things up for no good reason. If you are unnecessariliy obstructive. If you arent' much use, basically. Well, then, good luck getting your work accepted and recognised in the field.

That's fair -- right?

That's how come we don't have a NZ journal of Philosophy. Or of the Arts more generally so far as I can tell. People are too busy rubbish rubbish pooh pooh delay obstructing to produce anything much in the way of anything.

Do the people travel and give talks to help motivate and inspire the undergrads to pursue graduate study in philosophy? Do they produce a steady stream of output with new and intersting and varied things to say? Or are they still banging on about the PhD that their supervisor wrote for them 30 or 40 or 50 years ago??

I think the breakdown of Universities is because the balance of power is not good between administration and the teaching / researching / grading staff. Things are not objectively examined. They are not investing properly in well-designed examinations and a fair process of examiantion.

They don't think that the best path is to try and select the brightest and most hard working thinkign that that will convert into products of industry down the track.

Instead people are just trying to get as much as they can for themsleves in the short term with the plan to bail before anybody holds them to account.




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