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Re: neivity and intelligence

Posted by Amelia_in_StPaul on April 29, 2009, at 14:08:22

In reply to neivity and intelligence, posted by am3ma on April 28, 2009, at 20:08:45

Hi there, do you know what others have meant when they call you naive? I mean, in what context--what did you say or do that ended in their observation?

I have a loved one who is very passive. In my less kind moments, I would call that person a "naive optimistic," because he sees the good in people, because to do otherwise would be to risk conflict, hurt, anger...he doesn't realize he is being naive (and who am I to criticize him--he isn't on meds., like me, nor does he have an anxiety or depression disorder, so maybe some of that is a good thing), but conflict is not his bag.

However, he doesn't end up getting personally hurt if his naivete is revealed. He just moves on.

Oh, and this person is extremely intelligent.

So I don't think intelligence has anything to do with, whether in a positive or negative way.

I think it has more to do with how one views oneself and what one can handle. Willful niavete can be a defense mechanism.

So again, could you say a little bit more about what situations cause these observations to arise?

> Perturbed by a recent observation regarding my neivity, I have come here in attempt to broaden my thoughts.
> Currently my life is dominated by personal doubt and dysfunction. My therapist has ultimate faith in my ability to heal and conquer. I on the other hand, see an historical reinforcement of my limitations as a member of society.
> At 17 my then boyfriend said of me that I was "naive". I didn't understand. Recently at professional training, a psychologist commented (also) that I was "naive". A well-meaning friend has observed that my "naivety is interconnected with fear, loathing and anger", especially in the light of the "conflict I display in my love of others and hatred of (myself)".
> I'm not an academic but I do have innate intelligence. I've lived by my wits and have defied the odds, bringing up good citizens.
> On my own now, I find I don't fit in socially, for the purpose of employment.
> Could somebody 'out there' help me to understand the dilemma I'm in - the dysfunction caused by naivety with intelligence?
>
>


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