Posted by alexandra_k on September 22, 2006, at 18:04:53
In reply to Re: Blame - Trigger » alexandra_k, posted by daisym on September 22, 2006, at 13:11:03
> Maybe the difference comes down to the fact that a Volcano can not form a concept of right nor wrong - and has no conscious choice about erupting or not. HUMANS do. They make choices and this choice involved domination of someone else.
I guess it comes back to my world view of determinism... If I had your fathers body and his genes... I'd have been along for his ride thinking his thoughts and feeling his feeling and doing the things he did. I don't choose my thoughts or feelings they just occur to me. I know for a fact I've done many things I regret (for the effect they had on others) I've forgotten many other things I've done 'cause I can't face up to the effects they had on others.
Part of you loves him...
And part of you hurts so much in response to some of the things he did.
And it isn't that there was anything wrong with you because those kind of behaviours would result in most people responding the way you are.I wonder what happened to him when he was a kid.
Was he sexually abused? Physically? You know that people who abuse others were typically abused themselves, don't you?I guess that if you believe in God and you believe that people have immaterial souls that reside in their body some how and you believe in libertarian free will (where a free choice has to be miraculously one that is caused by me and one that is uncaused hence free both at the same time...) then that complicates matters.
> As far as social consciousness, I guess we could argue whether there are universal rights or wrongs. I know that sex with young girls is the accepted norm in some cultures. But since it isn't the norm in my culture, it carries with it shame and a whole bunch of other negative crap, both external and internal. And I'd like to think that we could universally agree that one person hurting another person for personal gratification not linked to survival, would be classified as "wrong."What he did hurt you.
Very much. Very much indeed.
What more needs to be said?
I don't understand...
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