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anger and grief **suicide trigger** » Sigismund

Posted by LlurpsieNoodle on June 9, 2007, at 23:34:40

In reply to Anger and Grief, posted by Sigismund on June 9, 2007, at 21:21:39

> Empowerment is one of those words I really wish had never been popularised.
> Like so many other words and concepts around today, it has the feel of a Masters of Business Admin.
>

Maybe you had to be there? Maybe I've been weak and felt brittle, and I heard two voices- one said you will make it through this, and be stronger for it and the other said- people like you will most certainly falter, you are going down and if you want, I'll help push you.

Which voice does one listen to? Where does one turn for advice?

I had to read back through this thread. It's been a while. I still grieve though, and I still remember what I'm angry about. Hell, I still remember the stupid wound.

MBA? Is that supposed to trivialize empowerment? I guess I don't understand. I thought the MBA degree conferred respect, or at the very least suggested some kind of competence about judging others' reactions in order to maximize profit.

I'm not sure why empowerment (the word or the notion) should be trivialized. Isn't it one of the purposes of supporting an individual?

> Anger is a reasonable reaction to loss, but it is a mistake to confuse it with grief.
> Completely different feel.
>

How can we possibly use any word or combination of words to describe feelings? They are so truly subjective. These days I feel different about my friend's suicide. I feel his loss at unexpected moments, when something reminds me of him- sometimes he feels close, and sometimes his death feels so foriegn. Sometimes I catch myself when I think- I'm gonna write a babblemail to pseudo and see what HE thinks about something. Loss. wishing to share something with someone who no longer exists. lost. Are all of these complicated emotions to be reduced to a single word "grief"?

At the time I was posting about anger and grief, I was pretty turbulent. I'm not sure that the feelings were that separate in my mind. Outrage, that was something else, too

> Grief is closer to remorse, but there's no anger in that (except directed toward oneself?) either.

I guess we have different experiences or maybe different feelings.

I respect your feelings, and ask you to respect mine, as mixed up and subjective and incomprehensible as they were and are. BUT- I do not intend to communicate that my feelings are somehow superior to yours in the sense that I was posting about a friend and a confidant. For all I know, you may have known pseudoname too.

-L


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