Posted by JLx on November 23, 2003, at 4:46:02
In reply to Re: TMG feels good...short lived? » JLx, posted by Larry Hoover on November 22, 2003, at 7:30:20
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> > Based on your experience, I increased my TMG a lot and am having a good result! :)
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> Way kewl!Yeah, it is. I just HAD to put that in my title. :) I've been out of work for nearly two years...in part because of depression paralyzing me more often than not, but also because even when I applied and interviewed, I wasn't hired. This job will only be through tax season, and not pay enough for me to save my house from foreclosure, but it's much better than nothing, I'll get a recommendation, have more current work experience, etc., so I'm really pleased. :)
Despite that, the last couple days have been somewhat disquieting.
Thursday was my best day on TMG. I've been more anxious since then. I woke up Friday night and couldn't get back to sleep so I tried some tryptophan. I ordered the horse stuff, and by my imprecise calculations, going by their directions, figure I took about 300 mg. I wanted a small amount because I think I am very sensitive to the dopamine/serotonin balance based on my noticing that 100 mg of 5-HTP felt WORSE than 50 mg and 50 mg felt better than none (since I've started tyrosine/phenylalanine). I did get back to sleep but didn't feel so good yesterday. More anxiety and lethargy. Despite the new job, which really made it noticeable. And my hand was shaking so bad in the interview I almost couldn't fill out the application! (I'm usually not this anxious and yes, take niacinamide already.)
Then I got really irritable in the afternoon, remembered DSCH's experience with TMG, and took some more magnesium...which worked. So, then I didn't take my third dose of TMG, went to bed really early because I was so tired, & woke up twice. (The previous couple days on TMG I slept through the night, which is a real rarity since I've started tyrosine.)
I was just reading back on the archives a bit, and correct me if I'm wrong....SAMe is in some way serotonergic? So, TMG is too? If so, then I need to take that into consideration in what I'm trying to achieve in the way of a dopamine/serotonin balance.
My joints are aching, I've got muscle tension in my neck and shoulders....along with the increased lethargy and anxiety (which feels like a knot in my chest), sleepy eyes yet unable to sleep...this reminds me of being on Zoloft.
So, I took 1,000 mg of tyrosine this morning, and will take a bit less TMG today and no methionine. (I've been taking 500 mg)
> > I didn't notice a boost until I took this higher amount. I feel more evened out, more energy and started sleeping better too.
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> Too much makes me insomnic. Go figure.Is there a cumulative effect? I just hate these things where you feel good for a short time and then start to sink again. It feels like having the possiblity of a "normal life" dangled before my eyes only to have to snatched back just when I reach for it. I had had a job interview on Thursday that was actually much tougher than Saturday's and I just sailed through it with minimal job interview jitters and feeling sharp in my thinking answering questions.
> > I'm still taking 500 mg of tyrosine as I think I need that for my thyroid if nothing else.
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> That's a reasonable amount for thyroid maintenance.This is such a grand thing to have corrected, I need to remember to count this blessing! :) Well, the selenium probably helps too, right? I didn't know that previously. I went to my doctor at one time because I was so tired and my hair was falling out -- and depressed -- armed with my low body temperature info, but when my thyroid test results were normal, that was the whole story for her...I had no thyroid problem. Maddening. It's no wonder so many of us have been forced to be our own doctors! And I must say, I have had much better success at it lately than they had. ;)
> > "Dosage: 3,000 milligrams a day, followed by a maintenance dose of 1,000 milligrams a day for up to three weeks."
> > http://www.holistic-online.com/Remedies/Depression/dep_nutrition2.htm#TMG
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> > 3 weeks, and then what?
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> No reason to stop at three weeks. None.Great, glad to hear that.
> Just be alert to changes in responsiveness to dose. You may well need to tweak, or take occasional breaks. You'll get a gut reaction thing going, over time.
Does the adventure never stop? ;)
JL
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