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Re: Update » Elizabeth

Posted by Lorraine on August 9, 2001, at 9:59:57

In reply to Re: Update » Lorraine, posted by Elizabeth on August 9, 2001, at 9:29:29

> > > Actually, I read an article on the "self-presentational theory of social anxiety"--which predicts that the likelihood and intensity of social anxiety increases as people become more motivated to make a particular desired impression and less certain that they will do so successfully. Pretty much fit my SA to a tee. > > > >
> That seems reasonable. There is definitely a temperamental aspect to it: some people are born shy.

Yes, but people who have SA are not necessarily shy, although they can be.

>
> > > What's Recovery Inc?
> Ahh. Mental illnesses in general? Sounds like it could be a very diverse group.

Could be, but my meeting only had 3 others in it and at least 2 were depressed.

> > > I found that spacing them as little as 2 hours apart was fine;

I may end up doing that and basically taking my whole dose in the am.

> > >(30 mg definitely was not enough for me, BTW.)

No, of course, not. I think I am a slow metabolizer (so drugs build up in my system quickly) and you are a slow metabolizer (or a partial non-metabolizer?) so that you need more drug to have an effect.


> > > It sure is. I hope the Parnate will smooth things out for you.

Right now it is. I've also stopped taking the estratest, although I'll probably go back on it in a new formula that has progesterone in it.


> > It's an interesting idea anyway. He also believes that you won't get side effects if the drug is right for you.
>
> I'm more dubious about that.

Me too.

> > Addiction is widely misunderstood.
>
> That's for sure, and you can see it even on this board. I think it's sad how some people use the word "addict" as an insult. I mean, seriously: addicts are human beings with a serious illness.

Watched Traffic on Sunday--great movie.


> > How is it [Valium] distributed?
>
> It gets taken up into the CNS very fast, then redistributed throughout the body. So it "hits" rapidly, but it doesn't work for nearly as long as you'd expect it to based on its elimination half-life.

Unless the effects that you want are not CNS but body effects, like breath rate?


> > > That's what you might expect based on their training. But my experience with "talk" therapy has been that the match between client and therapist -- the "click" is how I think of it -- is more important than the particular type of therapy being practised.

Clicking is important especially if you need to be vulnerable to make progress, but my experience with CBT is that vulnerability and disclosure aren't as important and so "click" isn't either.


> > >My childhood was pretty normal (other than some peculiar sleep problems which I've had all my life), certainly there was nothing that would explain my depression.

elizabeth, did you get SA as a result of having early onset depression?

> > > I think that's a very common world view. I'm pleased to hear that your husband was able to change; IMO, that shows a lot of character.

My husband is great. You marry one person and then 20 years later you are both different, having changed so much. The trick to marriage is to keep connected through all that change. My husband says that with all of the change I have gone through and my depression, he realizes that it is the prenumbra of me that he loves---it's like there is me and then there is who I might be at any given moment (actually he uses quantum physic metaphors to make his point).


>
> > elizabeth, you can add an MAO to a TCA without a washout is my understanding. This might be the ticket for you.

I reread this--I'm wrong I think. You can add TCAs to MAOs but not visa versa, right?


When's your pdoc home? And how are you coping day to day? I see my pdoc tomorrow re sleep. Last night I upped the Neurontin from 300 to 500 and slept like a rock. Not sure this approach will last, who knows?


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