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Re: Codeine for Depression Treatment » Elizabeth

Posted by paulk on May 29, 2001, at 21:16:15

In reply to Re: Codeine for Depression Treatment » paulk, posted by Elizabeth on May 29, 2001, at 19:37:36

> You mean the popular press, right?

Very interesting - first time I have seen anything in print on this.

I would have to see a double blind study with a much higher ‘N’ before I would get excited. About my only experience with opiates were Demerol for kidney stones and surgery – I skipped the pain med as much as possible because it would keep me from peeing. – I also used codeine cough syrup for a cold a few times – neither seemed ‘stimulating’ to me?

About the only other information related to narcotics I know about is that Cocaine acts as a norepinephrine reuptake inhibitor (suppose the media would equate cocaine with the SNRIs). I once had medical Cocaine when they were fixing my nose – and hated it. It was like drinking way too much coffee and gave me a headache that lasted the rest of the day. I can’t understand why anyone would pay good money for the experience – I suppose it is just another example that we are all nuro-chemically different. (I have also heard that much of the ‘street cocaine’ is really a mixture of procain and meth-amphetamine – there was a study that showed that users couldn’t tell them apart.)

> Well, I still don't understand what you mean by "opiates combined with an opiate blocker

It was described to me as a combination of an opiate (which one I don't know) and I think it Revia (Naltrexone). It was some time ago – I tried using Naltrexone to counter the old sex side effect of Effexor – it didn’t work – I told my pys doc about this attempt and he told me of treating some treatment resistant patient with such a mixture.

One last thought on the social stigmas some drugs have – Both Cocaine and Opiates were associated with minorities (blacks and Chinese) when these drugs became disreputable.




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