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Posted by Nancy Lake on September 7, 2010, at 11:59:58
I have been reading a few "new age" books and also listening on You Tube to Abraham-Hicks and Bashar. Beliefs like you create your reality and you can change it have helped me a great deal. I am new here and I am also here on the behalf of some friends and relatives with bi-polar diagnosis. I do not take any pharmacological medications. I do take vitamins and supplements and an non toxic iodine compound for my thyroid. I used to take synthetic hormones but not anymore. I meditate and surround myself with positive input. For instance, I do not watch TV anymore. The news is very depressing and not helpful. I catch the news on line and do keep track of certain things. My favorite book right now is "Ask and It is Given" by Ester Hicks. I am very impressed with the Holy Basil herb and I have not tried it but was happy to learn that it helps others feel better.
Posted by Lao Tzu on September 8, 2010, at 11:49:40
In reply to I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 7, 2010, at 11:59:58
I like your attitude about creating your own reality. It is true, but other people seem to make this difficult to accomplish completely. Does making positive affirmations every day help you at all? I do believe a lot of what we are seeing with mental illness is a product of our beliefs in society which dictate behavior. It's almost like we don't like what we see or hear, and then we go deeper into ourselves for love, kindness, and truth. It's a double-edged sword. When we are actively participating in society, we become what we see and hear in some respects. If we retreat into ourselves, eventually our behavior becomes strange and we may start believing things that aren't true in the outside world. Is it all biochemical, or is there a hefty amount of psychology involved? I believe both are true.
Like I said, I really like your attitude and keep it up if it helps. I'm sure it will, and I like the fact that you are using non-medication methods to get better. It's refreshing!!Stay Well.
Lao
Posted by Lao Tzu on September 8, 2010, at 12:02:50
In reply to I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 7, 2010, at 11:59:58
Oh, Holy Basil is a very good herb, even for children. It does seem to help with the emotions on a subtle level. I use it myself. I've found that taking breaks from it work better for me than taking it everyday for long periods. Maybe taking it 4 days a week and 3 days off would be enough. That's what I'm trying to do with it right now.
I do watch television, a little. But I never watch the news, just movies. I don't like the news programs either. They are so critical and negative. They make depressed people feel worse, and I do believe they instill fear in us so that we start walking around feeling paranoid. That's no way to live. It's garbage!! Besides, the news is mostly opinions, and you know what they say about opinions.
Anyway, keep doing what you're doing. You will find answers. Life will be more fulfilling for you. I think you're on the right track, and I may read some of those books too. The thing that helped me was to study the Tao Te Ching, a Chinese philosophy. It is a philosophy that is so different from the way we live as Americans. Most people wouldn't know what to make of it. It would seem so foreign to them, but I have found some comfort from studying it. I'm not saying I live by it everyday, but in really stressful times in my life, it has helped me to be more patient with people and to allow changes to happen naturally, and not to be so critical of those changes. Anyway, whatever helps, right??Stay Well.
Lao
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2010, at 12:18:28
In reply to I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 7, 2010, at 11:59:58
Hi Nancy welcome to babble. I have a question for you that you mentioned in your thread that you took synthetic hormones. Do you take bioidentical creams now based on blood work? What stage are you in in your life. In other words were they for menopause or postmenopause. I ask as sitting on the fence so to speak with using bioidenticals and am using compounded creams at age 64 through an antiaging doc who is also board certified ob gyn and used to run the osteoporosis section of a large hospital here. As also trying to help osteoporosis do you feel they help? Or would you stop them? Also I used to be an avid taker of Shaklee and really belived in them but no longer do as moved away from my source. So you prefer alternative? Any conditions you are trying to reverse or help other than mentioned? Again welcome to babble. Phillipa
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2010, at 12:20:48
In reply to I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 7, 2010, at 11:59:58
Nancy you also mention thyroid and I have hasimotos I've heard iodine irritates hasimotos. Is this non toxic iodine one I know of and does it work better than synthroid and others thanks again. Phillipa
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 14:34:23
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Lao Tzu on September 8, 2010, at 11:49:40
The mind is a powerful builder of reality. Our mind can effect the production of brain chemistry and then it continues to loop around for a while producing more homeostatic or similar type frequency and hormones.
The "Ask and It Is Given" book is really nuts and bolts advice on reading your current emotional state. It is not "airy fairy" stuff about affirmations. The problem with affirmations is this, if you don't really believe the sh*t you tell yourself, at a subconscious level or block it consciously from reaching the subconscious, it aint gonna help. You know when someone is giving you a fake compliment, because you can sense it. It is the same with feeding ourselves things that don't feel quite true.
What is more important is this: Within you there is a very sophisticated emotional truth meter. We are born with an emotional navigational system. We have been trained to ignore it. Sometimes it may make us feel bad and anxious too, so we run and escape. We escape anyway we can...there are many ways to do that.
When you feel hopeless, sad, anxious, fearful it means you are not perceiving and believing the truth for you. The best thing is to detach and just relax a bit, ask that the truth for you will take the place of the thoughts that are disturbing.
It takes some skill and practice, via mediation to start becoming aware of better feeling realities and thoughts. I don't force any of this, I just relax and receive this from a deeper place within.
I think reading that book is the best plan, it is very helpful for me.
Nancy
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 14:48:38
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Lao Tzu on September 8, 2010, at 12:02:50
I am not familiar with the Tao Te Ching. If there is a book I would be open to read it. When I get a bit of extra money, I will purchase some Holy Basil.
Another group that is rather alternative and very helpful is a national group that is replacing the AA self help groups. The group is called "Real Love" and it is based on a book by that name, Real Love written by Greg Baer, MD.
The book and classes are all about knowing the difference between fake love and real love. We look at behaviors for getting love and pushing love away. The ideal is to embrace and love yourself unconditionally, and not settle for fake love. We give our power away...and some times to the "experts"...no one has all the answers, anyway.
That is another thing that helps me, to put it as Dr. Baer would say, I go to those groups and
"get my love tank filled up". Good stuff.Nancy
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 15:10:23
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps » Nancy Lake, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2010, at 12:20:48
Hello Phillipa,
I studied Edgar Cayce remedies for years, each person is different.
I can't advise medically for you, but, according to the personal research I have done. Dr. Wallach, originally a veterinarian, and Cayce also maintain, that about 90% of the population do not get enough iodine, as well as other trace minerals.
It almost makes me believe we ideally should live by the sea and dive for shell fish and wrap it in sea weed. That sounds like Sushi. Maybe there is great wisdom in Sushi. Makes me think.
Wallach was able to reverse diabetics and chronic inflammation and arthritis in zoo animals with adding certain minerals to their diet.
He noticed in the wild nature world animals spend time foraging for certain things. They will eat mud even in certain places, they seem to know what they need, instinctively.
Zoo diets and domestic pellets fed to live stock, often lack certain elements that they need.
Baby Rhesus monkeys were dying of cystic fibrosis at one Chicago Zoo. It was thought to be a human genetic disease that children are born with.
What had happened was that pregnant Rhesus mothers were being fed a very bad diet, that lacked certain specific minerals. He added Selenium in particular to the diet. He was able to save some monkey infants and totally cure cystic fibrosis with mineral replacement. Interesting indeed. The medical world was really upset with this discovery. There was no known cure for CF and children were dying.
Medical Experts, are learning all the time. We learn and we explore. The answers are out there.
Thyroid is a master gland. All of my post menopausal symptoms have subsided since being on Atomodine or a non toxic ionic form of iodine for about a year.
That has been my personal experience, my hair has become fuller, my arthritis is gone, I don't even need aspirin or other pain remedies, I go to the gym and dance and have fun, so it is worth the money for those and some other supplements like Youngevity, Osteo FX plus...for stronger bones etc.
Hope that is food for thought. Each person is different.
Hugs,
Nancy
Posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2010, at 20:38:40
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 15:10:23
Nancy used to visit the Edgar Cayce Institute in VA Beach all the time and when vacationing there would buy a book a day and read it. I met a friend of Edgar's Son an old gentleman and he said that one day he and Edgar's Son were near a swamp and the Son got bitten by a poisonous snake and the looked up and Edgar was there in his horse and buggy. Fixed The problem. Known as the sleeping phrophet. So I know his dreaming and finding remedies for the person he thought of. And also the atomodine familiar with terms. Castor oil packs. I used to get a weekly massage from a trained therapist from Edgar's school. So you don't have thyroid problems just cured menopasual ones? Phillipa
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 22:48:39
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps » Nancy Lake, posted by Phillipa on September 8, 2010, at 20:38:40
Both. Low thyroid function, causing weight gain and also some moodiness during menopause. Helped me with both. Helped my energy, too. Better brain functioning. I graduate in May with a Master's in Forensic Psychology. I used to have lots of brain fog and fibromyalgia. I had a cluster of problems that seemed to be related to stress and low thyroid.. Used to take synthroid.
Again, maybe this will help someone, I don't know.
Nancy
Posted by Lao Tzu on September 9, 2010, at 10:52:42
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 15:10:23
Hi Nancy. Thank you for your thoughts. My mother has really bad osteoarthritis, and she did mention that when she was younger she had problems with the thyroid. You said that your arthritis went away with iodine. Did you think it would be wise for her to try the iodine? Would she need a doctor's approval? Are there side effects to using the iodine? What is it called again, and what is the dosage that you used? Are you saying the thyroid is related to arthritis. She has it bad in her hands. She is 64 now and hasn't found relief from the arthritis. She also tends to be low energy, which is also a symptom of the thyroid.
There are many books written about the Tao Teh Ching. It is more a philosophy than a religious text. It is wisdom from a thousand years or more, based on the interpretation of Nature and also the injustices the State placed on its citizens in China a long time ago. It is a way of seeing the Universe without thinking of it in a dualistic manner, which we all do everyday. It has helped me to deal with negative emotions in a more positive way, but you really have to open your mind to its teachings. I'm sure not everybody will embrace it, but it is an interesting philosophy. It takes into account all Changes in life. The I Ching is another good text. It is called the Book of Changes. I will look into the books you suggested.Lao
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 9, 2010, at 13:49:58
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps)))Nancy, posted by Lao Tzu on September 9, 2010, at 10:52:42
Hi again Lao,
Can't tell you about your Mom. If she sees a doctor and starts reading about arthritis that is a start.
The hormones are a system all their own. They effect arthritis as well as hundreds of other body functions.
There are many types of Arthritis and the causes are probably similar, lack of certain minerals for one, calcium.
1. Light Baths both physically and spiritually help
2. Diet, there is not much on diet except I follow some Edgar Cayce recipes. Some say too much diary is not good.
3. Plant derived minerals really help over all function of the body.
There is so much to learn about alternative treatments, and it all interacts and works in concert.
Help your Mom by searching alternatives, then you will be able to help her try them and her doctor and guide her too.
Ok.
Posted by Phillipa on September 9, 2010, at 19:45:11
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps, posted by Nancy Lake on September 8, 2010, at 22:48:39
Nancy also take synthroid and don't feel better even though number of TSH l.5 ideal according the endo. Now the bioidentical doc I see said to take the amatodine says some of his patients do better. But then I read all the internet stuff and said angry thyroid if hasimotos any sites you can guide me to? Also have osteoporosis, and osteoarthritis. Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Nancy Lake on September 10, 2010, at 1:05:05
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps » Nancy Lake, posted by Phillipa on September 9, 2010, at 19:45:11
Since I don't know anything about hasimotos disease I must refrain from comment on that. This might be an area where your doctor alone could advise.
Nancy
Posted by Lao Tzu on September 10, 2010, at 11:36:45
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps)))Nancy, posted by Nancy Lake on September 9, 2010, at 13:49:58
Thanks for the suggestions, Nancy. My mother's arthritis seems to flare up depending on the seasons and weather. She recently went to the doctor and he gave her a topical medication she could rub into her joints. I don't think she has used it yet. Thanks for the tips, though. She does take extra calcium and magnesium, but she's not into the herbals, some of which could help with inflammation. Yet, the herbals can cause side effects. I told her to take extra vitamin E, which is supposed to be good for arthritis, but she doesn't want to overdo it with fat-soluble vitamins. I'm really surprised there aren't many good medications for advanced osteoarthritis. There are meds for rheumatoid arthritis, but she doesn't have immune problems.
Anyway, thanks for the book suggestions. I do have a CD by Edgar Cayce, but I didn't think it helped me much since my psychosis is more of a biological nature, and I think perhaps memory associated with emotional responses and also the subconscious mind play a part. Emotionally, I am somewhat blunted due to all the medications I am taking, and my motivation is rather poor. Still, all the negative emotional responses are rather under control, but the meds also effect positive feelings as well. The meds are not specific to one kind of emotion or another. That's the problem with them. I have, however, experienced a much better mood and attitude by taking vitamins, minerals, fatty acids, and now implementing Holy Basil into my regimen. Overall, I feel well, but I usually do not experience any euphoria like I used to. Still, I definitely could use a little help changing my beliefs in the area of social interaction. How are your social skills? I definitely need improvement so I can start living my life again.Stay Well.
Lao
Posted by Dr. Bob on October 1, 2010, at 7:40:58
In reply to Re: I changed my beliefs and it helps)))Nancy, posted by Lao Tzu on September 9, 2010, at 10:52:42
> I am new here and I am also here on the behalf of some friends and relatives with bi-polar diagnosis. ... My favorite book right now is "Ask and It is Given" by Ester Hicks.
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> Nancy Lake> The I Ching is another good text. It is called the Book of Changes.
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> LaoI'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book, a movie, or music without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though.
Thanks!
Bob
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