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Posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 19:31:01
Is it just me or I have more panic attacks in summer time? I feel more anxious at summer, being outside is almost impossible especially if its sunny, hot and humid... My heart rate increase automatically, im dizzy, feel very hot especially my skin and my head, i dont sweat and after 5 minutes i have to run inside the house...
It's my third summer I feel that way, before, summer was the best time for me, the more sun and hot weather we had and the better I was, now I feel only ok inside my house with the air conditionning to the maximum force!!! Well, central air conditioning so the whole house is keep cool at 72...
In fact I feel like my head is overheating all the time and the only way to reduce that bad sensation is by applying 1 cold compress on my head especially the temper area and 1 cold compress on my neck... I have them most of the time on my head, carry them with me when I go out of the house for a Doc appointment since I can't go anywhere else... I have a big reserve of cold compress in the freezer...
And the no sweating at daytime is horrible... At night I often wake up all sweat...That's weird... Also I have difficulty to breath when it's hot and it's not linked to asthma or cigarette smoking since in winter I can breath very well... also my hands are clammy, both hands are red with white spots on them, all heart related symptoms are worse when its hot especially the jaw pain, teeth pain (ok maybe not from my heart?), numbness of the left arm, tachycardia, chronic pain in the left side of my chest like someone is sit on me, sensation of being in a dream who lead to more panic, muscles pain especially the legs, no energy at all and the list goes on...
Why more anxiety at summer? Alone to feel that way?
Posted by linkadge on July 10, 2013, at 20:07:37
In reply to Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 19:31:01
I experience this too. The heat is a factor. Also (for me) the # of daylight hours seems to be a factor. It seems to help my mood by darkening the house early.
Linkadge
Posted by Beckett on July 10, 2013, at 21:35:18
In reply to Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 19:31:01
I have more anxiety starting in late spring and throughout the summer. I always thought it was the light in my case.
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 21:49:52
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by linkadge on July 10, 2013, at 20:07:37
> I experience this too. The heat is a factor. Also (for me) the # of daylight hours seems to be a factor. It seems to help my mood by darkening the house early.
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> LinkadgeYes I agree...longer day are for me worse... I always feel better 1 hour before bedtime... It's like the heat amplify the anxiety and too much light make me feel more anxious as well... Have difficulty with artificial lights.. At the Walmart for example the lights there make me feel sooooo anxious, I see them like they are flashing.... Apparently people's prone to migraine and anxiety all have problems with fluorescent lamps...
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 21:54:32
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by Beckett on July 10, 2013, at 21:35:18
> I have more anxiety starting in late spring and throughout the summer. I always thought it was the light in my case.
I agree with you also.
That's weird cause they talk about the lack of light from the sun and seasonal depression but for me I'm better at winter time for sure, my mood is better also from fall to spring but summer is bad...
When my anxiety was under control I had less problem with summer and enjoy it but was more tired... Profusion sweating was a problem... But now I have the reverse problem and can't sweat so my internal temperature increase and I feel bad!!!
Posted by Phillipa on July 10, 2013, at 23:05:05
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » Beckett, posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 21:54:32
I feel better sooo much better in summer when sunny and hot. As I know can always go inside to cool off. Need to be outside in summer. I crave the sunlight and ability to wear less clothing. Phillipa
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 8:01:12
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » Vincent_QC, posted by Phillipa on July 10, 2013, at 23:05:05
> I feel better sooo much better in summer when sunny and hot. As I know can always go inside to cool off. Need to be outside in summer. I crave the sunlight and ability to wear less clothing. Phillipa
Oh god, another poor night of bad sleep... Feel so bad when I wake up in the morning... I think your article about the bad sleep who lead to anxiety is SO TRUE!!! When I can sleep 6 hours in a row I feel very good but when it take 3 hours just to fall asleep and then can sleep only 3 hours that's hard to get up and be active at daytime and my anxiety level is higher than usual... I can return in my bed to sleep once in a while but most of the time I will not be able to fall asleep again... so that's why I nap in the afternoon between 1 to 2 hours... don't sleep most of the time in the afternoon but lying in my bed and close my eyes help me to be able to stay up for the evening... if I don't nap i'm a big mess at night and have more panic and anxiety, hummm should call it FREE FLOATING anxiety who is with me all the time...
I must say that the only thing that I enjoy now from the summer is to be able to wear less clothing!!!
Like I was saying, before my anxiety goes OUT of control, I was craving for hot weather, a lot of sun, and sweating!!! I remember that at some point I was able to lay down under the sun to get some tan and go to the tanning salon at the end of the day for a 25 minutes of artificial tan in the stronger bed they had at the salon... the one who you stay stand and not lying in the bed... The last time I go to the tanning salon I faint in the middle of the tanning session cause I was on the Clomipramine TCA antidepressant... heart start racing but not like a panic attack and the last thing I remember is that I had to shout a loud help, I collapse and open my eyes and the owner of the tanning salon was inside the small room trying to resuscitate me and apply some cold water on my face... Funny cause I was also nude inside the tanning cabin... lol I never return their after...
Artificial tan cause a lot of discoloration on all over my body... dark circles especially under my arm pit, also have a lot of beauty spots especially in my back and my Doc will send me see a Specialist Doc to screen for cancer my 1000 and more beauty spots...he will take some pictures of them and have to return each 6 months to take other pictures to see the evolution... I'm on the waiting list... My doc did told me that some of the beauty spots are bigger than a 5 cents piece and they are very dark and have weird shape... not looking good as they can be skin cancer...
Anyway, will try to eat and take my shower... another day that I will spend sit on the couch cause it's hot outside and can't breath properly outside...
Posted by jennifer248805 on July 11, 2013, at 10:23:54
In reply to Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by Vincent_QC on July 10, 2013, at 19:31:01
yup, me too. know how you feel. I have to have really cold cloths on my forehead and back of my neck. Overwhelming heat definitely brings on panic for me.
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 10:35:11
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by jennifer248805 on July 11, 2013, at 10:23:54
> yup, me too. know how you feel. I have to have really cold cloths on my forehead and back of my neck. Overwhelming heat definitely brings on panic for me.
Hi Jennifer, do you feel like that since a long time? Are you living in a country where it's hot all the time or a country like mine where we have short summer who are really hot and humid and long winter when it's cold?
Like I was saying, since summer 2011, I feel that way... The cold compress is something I start last summer but only need it for my headache at first... Since 10 months I use them all the time... I get used to them and if I have to get out and can't have a cold compress on my head and one on my neck I feel very bad... So I guess it wasn't a good idea to start using them all the time and that my body now need them to cool down... I did try to stop using them at daytime but I didn't last than 2 days and had to start using them again all the time... I bough them at Walmart, they are very cold, but stay flexible, have 20 of them in the freezer so always have them ready to use... They stay cold 1 hour...
Anyway, I hate summer now because of that... It's lasting only 4 months and was used to enjoy summer so bad, now I just feel horrible with all the symptoms that the heat bring on...
Posted by jennifer248805 on July 11, 2013, at 11:30:34
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » jennifer248805, posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 10:35:11
I prefer winter. the heat of summer which can be 4 or so months long, really gets to me. Increases panic and anxiety. Been this way for years.
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 11:38:49
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by jennifer248805 on July 11, 2013, at 11:30:34
> I prefer winter. the heat of summer which can be 4 or so months long, really gets to me. Increases panic and anxiety. Been this way for years.
Oh ok I see... Well will wish that summer will not be too hot and humid !!! At least I'm not alone to feel that way, not that I'm happy to see that other people's suffer like me of more panic and anxiety but I feel less alone to feel that way and more normal...depending of your definition of normality of course! Lol
Take care
Posted by jrbecker76 on July 14, 2013, at 21:00:40
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » jennifer248805, posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 11:38:49
I find that my anxiety is worse in the summer than in the winter even though my melancholy mood follows the opposite change in seasonal patterns.
I believe that the anxiety of the warmer/lighter seasons is related to three different variables: increased sunlight, increased ambient temperature, increased humidity level.
A completely different pattern of anxious depression/mood instability for me lets loose every spring (Apr-May) which I'm pretty is correlated with tree pollen season.
Fall is by far my best season.
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 14, 2013, at 22:03:17
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by jrbecker76 on July 14, 2013, at 21:00:40
> I find that my anxiety is worse in the summer than in the winter even though my melancholy mood follows the opposite change in seasonal patterns.
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> I believe that the anxiety of the warmer/lighter seasons is related to three different variables: increased sunlight, increased ambient temperature, increased humidity level.
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> A completely different pattern of anxious depression/mood instability for me lets loose every spring (Apr-May) which I'm pretty is correlated with tree pollen season.
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> Fall is by far my best season.It's somewhat the same for me... I like fall and spring... I also love winter but the lack of light make me feel more depress in a way, even if I don't have depression... But also too much light or sunlight lead to bad mood also, who is weird...
I had very bad hay fever when I was younger, I remember that as a child, my mom had to give to me 4 doses a day of the liquid antihistaminic call chlortripolon... It was a lot sedating and remember the side effects from it like it was yesterday... I think it's one of the older antihistaminic with serotonin and noradrenaline reputake inhibitor effect, those old meds lead to the discovery of the ssri and srni. I don't know if the fact that my mom give it to me when I was so young for many years disturb my brains???
Now I still have pollen allergies but I don't take meds for this... It's worse in spring and late summer... Grass is for me the worse allergen... But it don't bother me, anxiety bother me a lot more than allergies!!! Lol
We have a heat wave here since 3 days, it will last for another 3 days. It's so humid and hot outside that I can't get out of the house at all... I did go out 5 minutes late in the afternoon and I had to return inside the house cause I was about to faint... My heart rate increase so much and my internal temperature increase too much also and I can't stay outside at all... Even going outside where it hot and humid and return in a very cold house with the central air conditioning is hard for my body... I have bad migraine because of this so I stay inside... Everyone in the neighbours seem to be happy with the heat wave, they eat outside, swim in their pool, play outside... Me I'm stuck inside and I'm tired of that whole situation...
Anyway, can't wait to have normal heat without humidity... Can stay outside 30 min but not under the sun... And have to drink plenty of water to feel ok...
I must have a problem with my central nervous system cause I wasn't like that before...
Posted by Trevpr on July 14, 2013, at 22:15:04
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » jrbecker76, posted by Vincent_QC on July 14, 2013, at 22:03:17
Weather can easily affect mood and psychiatric symptoms as can the amount of sunlight and waking/sleeping schedules
Posted by jennifer248805 on July 15, 2013, at 8:39:50
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time! » jennifer248805, posted by Vincent_QC on July 11, 2013, at 11:38:49
You're definitely not alone
Posted by Vincent_QC on July 15, 2013, at 9:38:28
In reply to Re: Panic disorder worse at summer time!, posted by Trevpr on July 14, 2013, at 22:15:04
> Weather can easily affect mood and psychiatric symptoms as can the amount of sunlight and waking/sleeping schedules
I agree on that too!!!
At winter time when the sun is going down at 4 pm, I need to sleep less and get up early in the morning and can be functional and have more energy... At summer time when the sun last until 9 pm, it's hard to go to sleep, also in the morning I need to stay in my bed and have no energy at all...
Right now, right in a middle of a heat wave, my main problem is the high heart rate!!! That's triggering a lot of panic attacks... My heart rate when I go out is 140 and more since its hard to count it since my heart beat so fast and as soon as I enter in the house it's return to 84. It's a big difference... And when I sit outside under the sun the heart rate will be above 120 and sit inside the house (central air conditioning) its 80 maximum... Is it what we call pots? My cardiologist mention it to me but don't order tests for it... He told me to drink salty liquid...I already do that and drink more than 6 bootles of 500ml water day not counting the milk and some herbal tea without caffeine of course... The cardio Doc also suggest that I may have dysautonomia... But again no test... And the beta blocker don't reduce the heart rate anymore and I try all of the with the exception of the Coreg since my blood pressure is running on the low side already... Deep breathing don't reduce the high pulse rate... Exercise is impossible and just standing or taking my shower will bring the heart rate up in the 160... And the funny thing is that I had a holter monitor 24 h 2 weeks ago and the high heart rate didn't show up, we had normal temperature outside and rain that day... So the cardio Doc don't want to see me anymore and blame the anxiety for all my heart symptoms and blame also a deconditioning physical state!!!
Anyway... I feel like I do extreme physical exercise by only standing and walking around the house and that left me very tired physically...
Ok, I'm not active physically since 3 years... I admit that I avoid exercise since my anxiety is severe to not trigger more panic attacks and the fact that I didn't exercise since 3 years may be a major key factor to my weak heart pumping function... But feeling like I exercise all the time even when I'm sit is exhausting and don't encourage me to do real physical exercise...
Well, out of topic, sorry... Had to write it this morning since I feel so bad and nobody to talk about it... Didn't see my psychologist since 2 months cause I don't have enough money to go see her... In August will go see her for sure, it's not helpful to reduce my anxiety but talking to someone about what I live, someone neutral, make me feel better...
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