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Re: Watch out for next-day Taurine lethargy . » tecknohed

Posted by Molitor on November 27, 2007, at 0:04:42

In reply to Re: Watch out for next-day Taurine lethargy . » Molitor, posted by tecknohed on November 26, 2007, at 16:30:24

I use 1fast400 too, I just always say Bulk Nutrition for some reason.

I've been taking their Idebenone for a month or so now (looks about like dry powdered carrots?), and I can't say I've noticed anything. Taking larger single doses doesn't do anything noticable, either. But it might be doing me good over time, so I'm going to keep taking it, as it doesn't seem to have any negatives.

The only nutrient that I feel gives me a boost, when taken over the course of a few days, is ALCAR (Actyl-L-Carnitine), and the taste is pure tart. Pretty cheap stuff, too. Supposed to be miraculously good for you, but then, so is Taurine. ;)

I'm looking for things that are stimulating/energizing. MAOIs just cause me no end of fatigue, weekness, sleepiness, etc. Some of the other things I've tried:

Rhodiola Rosea - Couldn't tell anything, and I stopped because I wasn't sure how it interacts with Parnate.

Piracetam - If anything, made me more depressed. Not bad-mood depressed, but lack of emotion depressed. Since that's a large part of my problem, it's a bad mix. A lot of people say Piracetam is miraculous for improving all sorts of neural function, especially the people who sell it. ;)

Phenibut - Gives your GABAnergic system a Deep Swedish Massage. It's relaxing, and makes you feel good, but it builds tolerance within, literally, just a couple of uses. And it never works as good again (which makes you wonder what it does to you). If you use it more than a few times and increase the dose, you'll have trouble stopping it. The effects are much stronger than most other "supplements", and I consider it a drug can be at last as habituating as benzos for some people. This falls into the "I can't believe this is legal" dept. I'd tell anyone to stay away, or at least Google Phenibut Addiction.

Glucuronolactone - Another thing in energy drinks, gives a slight boost, kinda, maybe. Kinda makes me feel better, I think. I take a couple grams when I feel really crummy.

Sulbutiamine - The absolutely worst tasting stuff I've ever put on tongue, bar none. The flavor burrows into your tongue and lasts a loooong time, too. It's a thiamine precursor sold under the brand "Arcalion", supposedly as an "anti-asthenic". Zero effect, and my tastebuds are still hate me.

I haven't tried their Vinpocetine, as I wasn't sure how that would mix with Parnate. Although I once used a mix of Vinpocetine and Huperzine that I liked, but I gave that up for the same reason.



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