Posted by Larry Hoover on June 1, 2006, at 10:13:50
In reply to Re: Enada, posted by LOOPS on June 1, 2006, at 9:06:12
> yes!
You need some. Methinks.
> The only thing I've really managed to do is cut the wine down (due to low-carbing) - because more than 2 glasses and I'm really really sleepy and just go to bed.
Low carbing.
If I invented a diet, would people follow it? Maybe that's what I should do. Write a diet book.
I'll call it the Throw Those Diet Books in the Trash Diet. It has one page. Guess what it tells you to do? [Hint: It's printed on recycleable paper.]
I think it is fine to avoid pure sugars, and bleached starches. But beyond that, moderation. Unless you're treating/managing specific symptoms. That's a whole different kettle of turnips from "the size 6 diet".
> This is great, but I still drink every night, and sometimes at the weekend I drink more than two glasses. I'm pretty convinced this kind of addiction has led me to having deficiencies in just about everything - and I don't believe they know EVERYTHING to put in multivitamins.
You know, all those other things we've been talking about take on a whole new light. Guess who would feel a whole lot better if she cut down on the ethanol intake? Trying to fix *that* with vitamins is a waste of time, you know.
> The whole magnesium thing is a good example. I didn't think for years that it is the one thing there is NEVER very much of in a bottle of vits - and guess what - it is depleted by smoking (prob too much nicotine as well from gum) and drinking alcohol etc.
Uh-huh. So, your requirement is increased, beyond your innate needs. You go into functional deficiencies, despite excellent diet, and increased supplementation.
> I think I'm gradually getting better with things now - for one thing I no longer have to restrict calories to keep my weight downSee earlier comment.
> which means more nutrition, and also I have found some things very useful in the vitamin parade:
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> I love:
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> mag/ (balanced with calcium no more problems - sleeping like a log)
> vitamin C balanced with zinc
> vitamin E seems to help with insomnia
> cod liver oil - I almost get 'high' off taking enough vitamin D in the Winter here - enough seems to be around the 1000IU mark for me but I get a lot of sun in the Summer
> low-dose Bs as in Berrocca plus + occasional high dose B1 and B6
> low-dose fish oil - good but I actually think my brain prefers the fish itself.Most people should simply eat more fish. But people like fish oil. Or something.
> Melatonin - coupled with mag/cal 1.5mg very helpful.
> Ginseng - give me more and more of the good quality stuff. Really seems to balance me out and even lift my mood a little. I like it because it seems to be a true adaptogen (other ones like Rhodiola seem to mess me up rather than help me adapt lol).Your adaptogen is my disruptogen, etc.
You have to do experiments. Reading labels only takes you so far. Reading labels helps you form the hypothesis. Experimentation is hypothesis testing.
> That's it really these days. Oh sorry - there I go again having a bit of a ramble about myself. I don't know how I got onto that really!I think it's about time. You've been leaving out some important details. ;-)
> So the ENADA was ok but I overdid it - maybe I could still use it occasionally. It was oddly calming and energizing at the same time I seem to remember - an effect I like.
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> LoopsCalming and energizing at the same time, and you wonder if you "could" use it "occasionally"? Hmmmm. Let me think about that.
I'm exhausted, and I hope my sense of humour is coming through. I do not mean to be rude, at all. I just am nearly stupid with fatigue. So, please, some tolerance.
You said niacinamide makes you wired, if I recall. I can't speak to the influence of alcohol on that. But, the reason I asked about Enada is what Enada is. Nicotinamide is an older trivial name for what we tend now to call niacinamide. And, Enada is nicotinamide adenine dinucleotide. The H means reduced. Don't worry about that bit. The rest is what matters.
If your individual niacin equilibrium is such that it shunts niacinamide towards niacin instead of towards NADH, then your mitochondria are going to suffer. If your mitochondria suffer, you suffer. It's just that simple.
My personal recommendation to you, other than all the others I've been making, is to focus on getting a solid source of alphalipoic acid into you. You already feel the vitamin C and E. You will feel the alphalipoic acid, also.
You may be very sensitive to NADH. I found that I tolerated it much better with betaine. You may recall I also suggested that substance (as the hydrochloride) to you for your hypochlorhydria (low stomach acid). That betaine will go on to help with this other thing. The B12 also fits into this other, mitochondrial thing. It will help your stomach, and your energy.
I really don't think you can start to feel better, though, until your ethanol goes to zero. Or something close to it. If you crave the alcohol, get some taurine.
You're very much like me, biochemically. That's what I think. I feel very familiar with this pattern.
Lar
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