Posted by JLx on November 26, 2003, at 8:09:18
In reply to Re: CONGRATS on the JOB » JLx, posted by tealady on November 25, 2003, at 19:13:24
> > > IT slows the breakdown of cortisol .so it lasts all day in the body at a higher level.
> > > I was probably eating too much licorice I think as I was bruising easily..now that is worked out.
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> > > When I ran out, after a while I woke up with nausea, shaking, sweating, weak etc.,..took a while to twig!...took some cortisol(only a tiny bit) and was right again soon after.
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> > How did you determine that you needed the extra cortisol?
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> Hmm can't remember clearly much from then. I think I got an email and that person had talked a lot on adrenal crash symptoms before, so it kinda reminded me of the symptoms which I was recognising...and tried it..and it worked. Guardian angel/luck ? It's the first time it's happened to me like that. Hopefully the last?Does this give the body a rest to supply it, or does it impair the adrenal gland's ability to produce it in the longer term?
> > do you have a prescription for when you take some?
> Yes... my saliva tested out pretty low beginning of last year..like too low to measure towards end of day..I seem to get enough in the morning just don't retain it. The thyroid meds were really hitting me hard in the beginning..you need a bit of adrenal support if they are borderline when you start thyroid hormones or probably also if you start tyrosine too in some cases
> Fish oil supports the adrenals really well..and B5, VitC help too, as does a multiB etc.I take all that now so I hope it's recovering. I also have some adrenal glandular supplement but didn't start taking it when I bought it and now I wonder if I should or not. In general, even though I am feeling better and have more energy, I am disappointed that it doesn't seem like "normal" energy. I get tired especially in the afternoon, and in the evening I am pretty useless. So I wonder if I too am having that cortisol drop that you mention.
> (I somewhat recall you talking to Larry about this....using hydrocortisone cream?...but didn't follow more than the basic gist of your conversation.)
> yes, I use this on occasion too..I did apply a bit of that..but I needed something a bit more just then..and a faster pickup. Cortisol seems to work within half an hour with me.I think I have some hydrocortisone cream around here someplace, maybe I will experiment.
> well it starts like that...but if the stress continues like for years and is fairly intense..then eventually the adrenals don't produce enough.
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> What seems to happen with me , I think, is that I do produce enough in the morning and can cope all day if I don't get stressed at all(and take some licorice which helps prevent the breakdown of cortisol as fast)...but if I do get stressed then I start shaking , and if I take some cortisol I can stop the reaction..so it looks like my body just doesn't produce more on demand well enough...I really can't find much about this in searching the web. So if anyone finds anything let ne know please!> I was pretty dumb to let myself get stressed I guess. I usually avoid it ..like I might not answer some posts(even though I really would like to have a say), or get into debates etc...and I used to enjoy a good debate too, sigh.
It makes me feel like an old fart to go to bed so early and be so concerned about avoiding stress and discord, but I have to do that too.
> No, the opposite..you have to get to bed ..preferably by 10pm(I've heard 9.30)..to allow your natural circadian rhythm to produce enough cortisol. I know it when I was a joke as a kid as I'd insist on being in bed by 8.30pM,..even when invited to stay up later..I know why now.Yes, now I remember. It's the disruption in the rhythm that causes problems by staying up and being too active too late. I recall the author of that cortisol book saying that he took theanine every early evening to help him wind down.
> Late nights on forums aren't doing me much good. I'll have to discipline myself more. I've cut back form midnight to 11PM so far...but I sleep in the afternoon still.
Being on the computer in the evening is very stimulating to me...mentally and also through the light on my eyes affecting melatonin, I think. I generally start turning down the lights about 8 pm and only read in bed with the weakest light I can stand.
> OK..I should have told you. When you read on "about" forums..you need to go down to bottom RHS of page and click on ADVANCED VIEW ..so you see 20 messages at once. There is a lot about licorice in that first thread
Ok, thanks, I'll check it out again.
> > I've never craved licorice (can't stand the taste) but I recall my older sister (my predecessor in the natural-menopause route) saying that licorice made her nuts. Perhaps it was the cortisol increase. I guess I had it in my head too that it raised blood pressure.
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> no idea on this. I'm not there as yet.
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> It does this via the increase in adrenal function I think> > TMG has helped me step up my exercise.
> I have yet to try TMG..is that the same as betaine?Yes, but not to be confused with betaine hydrochloride.
> I started with half an hour at a small local gym at the pool last night <much to amusement of one son>....and walk in the bush a couple of days a week now..still have to get better at uneven surfacesI just walk for exercise, usually at least 45 min a day, sometimes over an hour. I have a treadmill in my house for bad weather that I've just started using again. I also have this book "Strong Women Stay Young" about how to use hand and leg weights. I have most of the weights and started the program last summer, but then slacked off and haven't psyched myself up for it again. It took me years of on and off walking to really get into the habit where I just do it. (Well, having a dog helps! :))
Best wishes to you too.
JL
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