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Posted by AMD on May 10, 2005, at 17:30:04
chemist,
Any chance on the comedown from the cocaine, alcohol, etc., I may have caused damage from dehydration (I drank about 16 oz of liquid over > 24 hours) or respiratory arrest?
Argh! I can't quit obsessing. I guess until my mind feels clear and calm -- and I'm wondering if that's ever going to happen -- I am going to be in distress.
Do you think perhaps this is mania or a mixed episode rather than sequelae from the drugs?
amd
Posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 4:37:08
In reply to chemist -- dehydration?, posted by AMD on May 10, 2005, at 17:30:04
hello again...i think Professor Hoover weighed in on the issues of dehydration - and a whole lot more - but what is this about respiratory arrest? am i reading this incorrectly? i am interpreting this as you asking if during the time period including the hours after you used cocaine last week that there is a chance that your respiration ceased....please clarify, is this correct? yours, chemist
> chemist,
>
> Any chance on the comedown from the cocaine, alcohol, etc., I may have caused damage from dehydration (I drank about 16 oz of liquid over > 24 hours) or respiratory arrest?
>
> Argh! I can't quit obsessing. I guess until my mind feels clear and calm -- and I'm wondering if that's ever going to happen -- I am going to be in distress.
>
> Do you think perhaps this is mania or a mixed episode rather than sequelae from the drugs?
>
> amd
Posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 5:00:32
In reply to chemist -- dehydration?, posted by AMD on May 10, 2005, at 17:30:04
continued: comments below.....yours, c
> chemist,
>
> Any chance on the comedown from the cocaine, alcohol, etc., I may have caused damage from dehydration (I drank about 16 oz of liquid over > 24 hours) or respiratory arrest?
>
> Argh! I can't quit obsessing. I guess until my mind feels clear and calm -- and I'm wondering if that's ever going to happen -- I am going to be in distress.
>
> Do you think perhaps this is mania or a mixed episode rather than sequelae from the drugs?
>
&&&& i have to state that the following is not the qualified opinion of a medical doctor who is your primary caregiver: my opinion is that OCD-like behaviour is making life difficult. whether other conditions are present or not is something that may take years to determine...sequelae from ketamine, alcohol, cocaine, tobacco-related, and marijuana range from ``not apparent to me'' to death. we can rule out the latter. the current state of guilt/obsession is not doing you any good, really. if there is an urge that you cannot control in re: monitoring your intake of the substances, it is time to seek help, as larry answered before. if you can ``just say no,'' then say ``no'' and avoid the fallout. i am at a loss and not in a position to offer any more than that, perhaps than if there is tangible change in your life that results from drug/alcohol use - and drugs include prescription, OTC, illicit, foods, beverages, etc. - it's time to ask for help in that area...yours, c
> amd
Posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 16:14:51
In reply to Re: chemist -- dehydration? » AMD, posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 5:00:32
You're right -- change needs to happen.
I saw my psychiatrist today, and she didn't make much of the ketamine -- she said, "Ketamine? Where did you get the ketamine!?" in a rather casual manner. I asked her if there'd be permanent damage and her answer was "no, but don't do it again."
She also kept my drug regimen the same, so I suspect that this will just take more time to pass and there's nothing more I can do about it.
Just feeling pretty horrible and unable to concentrate, but this is likely the depression.
amd
Posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 16:55:41
In reply to Re: chemist -- dehydration? » chemist, posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 16:14:51
Well, we'll see how long it takes me to resume my near instant recall of obscure Oracle commands.
amd
Posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 17:10:11
In reply to Re: chemist -- dehydration? » chemist, posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 16:14:51
hello there amd...perhaps you can look on the bright side: she did not give you the shove out the door, thus it appears to me that she does not feel that your intake of recreational goods is such that it be reason to adhere to the policy you related earlier...and the reaction to your admission means that either the patient list is devoid of people who have used ketamine while under her care, or they have not enlightened her about any indulgences....perhaps she is aware that the chances of you developing a full-blown ketamine habit is unlikely....who knows, but it is something you can avoid...and immediately make a mental note that you quit using ketamine the night you started, and were clean before and have remained clean thus far. one down, a few to go...
be well, chemist
> You're right -- change needs to happen.
>
> I saw my psychiatrist today, and she didn't make much of the ketamine -- she said, "Ketamine? Where did you get the ketamine!?" in a rather casual manner. I asked her if there'd be permanent damage and her answer was "no, but don't do it again."
>
> She also kept my drug regimen the same, so I suspect that this will just take more time to pass and there's nothing more I can do about it.
>
> Just feeling pretty horrible and unable to concentrate, but this is likely the depression.
>
> amd
Posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 17:16:31
In reply to Re: chemist -- dehydration? » AMD, posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 16:55:41
> Well, we'll see how long it takes me to resume my near instant recall of obscure Oracle commands.
>
> amd...and consider this: it might be a blessing if Oracle proficiency does not return, freeing you from ever having to work with it again....yours, chemist
Posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 18:33:05
In reply to ...but look at the bright side... » AMD, posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 17:16:31
... fortunately, Oracle is one of those beasts I have tamed quite well and thus enjoy frolicking with (perhaps not the best term).
So it's day six, and I'm hoping to improve soon, but I still feel physically and mentally ill, and decidedly less than bright. In fact, I fell less alert today than I did a few days ago, so I hope my cognition is not on the decline. I'll trust you when you said it's not, and that these drugs didn't kickstart a dive into further depressive horrors!
The plight of the gifted is that it's shocking when one actually has to apply oneself to a task, as I'm sure you're aware.
I need to give myself more credit. I hope, that is, that one night of ketamine and heavy cocaine (followed a few days after by a couple glasses of wine; yes, I was bad) won't have taken away years of learning /how/ to learn and inherently knowing /how/ to process and categorize information.
It's the executive functions I fear losing most. And my job. I am accustomed to a steady income and being broke -- isn't that the curse of bipolar. Not two dozen snake-bite kits: my conpulsive spending is on books and CD's. But obviously, I'd be homeless without my job.
So that's scaring me to death right now. I'm afraid to pick up a book for fear I'll be unable to read it (and thus from a guy who loves to read). So you can imagine how this affects me given the stresses of the office.
So, again, I hope this passes soon.
amd
Posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 19:52:31
In reply to Re: ...but look at the bright side... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 18:33:05
> ... fortunately, Oracle is one of those beasts I have tamed quite well and thus enjoy frolicking with (perhaps not the best term).
>
%%% not a bad habit... %%%> So it's day six, and I'm hoping to improve soon, but I still feel physically and mentally ill, and decidedly less than bright. In fact, I fell less alert today than I did a few days ago, so I hope my cognition is not on the decline. I'll trust you when you said it's not, and that these drugs didn't kickstart a dive into further depressive horrors!
%%% if it proves otherwise, you would be an exception to a rather common rule...%%%
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> The plight of the gifted is that it's shocking when one actually has to apply oneself to a task, as I'm sure you're aware.
>
%%% i am gifted at the art of avoiding undertaking tasks, that is certain...%%%> I need to give myself more credit. I hope, that is, that one night of ketamine and heavy cocaine (followed a few days after by a couple glasses of wine; yes, I was bad) won't have taken away years of learning /how/ to learn and inherently knowing /how/ to process and categorize information.
>
%%% it would be rather surprising to me if it did. then again, there is apoptosis...%%%> It's the executive functions I fear losing most. And my job. I am accustomed to a steady income and being broke -- isn't that the curse of bipolar. Not two dozen snake-bite kits: my conpulsive spending is on books and CD's. But obviously, I'd be homeless without my job.
%%% i must be unipolar, as being broke has been the theme for my whole life, and i took a vow of poverty in my chosen path: yet i have very, very few possessions, and do not yearn for any, or buy much at all...perhaps the compulsions never developed because the means were never in place...a cure? %%%
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> So that's scaring me to death right now. I'm afraid to pick up a book for fear I'll be unable to read it (and thus from a guy who loves to read). So you can imagine how this affects me given the stresses of the office.%%% nope, office life has been avoided at all costs, by mutual agreement...besides, i do not own a tie or a jacket. or a wristwatch...but i imagine the stressors are severe, and the northeast is not known for being a relaxed kind of place...%%%
>
> So, again, I hope this passes soon.
>
> amd%%% of course it will. give it time....yours, c %%%
Posted by AMD on May 12, 2005, at 17:46:10
In reply to Re: ... » AMD, posted by chemist on May 11, 2005, at 19:52:31
Update: I am feeling measurably better today, so perhaps these toxins are exiting my system (finally).
Next: do something intellectual (Oracle data warehousing, calculus, Doestoevsky), and stimulating (video games).
It's as if I need a daily metric to measure the level of cognition I have for the day.
I wear sweats and a t-shirt most days (easier to go to the gym with), rarely get to the office before noon, and have a relaxed work atmosphere. But none of this matters if I can't concentrate on the work to begin with, hence the stress.
I, too, live a spartan lifestyle. I think that's because I spend far too much money on books, food, and New York outings than I do on possessions like, you know, a TV or a couch.
Thanks chemist, as usual, for your insights and support.
Notice I've regressed to quoteless reply, as I ran out of text delimiters. ;)
SQL> insert into dual values ( 'Y' );
amd
Posted by chemist on May 15, 2005, at 2:54:16
In reply to Re: ... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 12, 2005, at 17:46:10
hello amd, apologies (a common opener from me, sadly) for the hour and time span...i am glad to hear you are getting back on track, as it were...perhaps a journal - a mood journal, and there are some very helpful folks who i am sure would offer the procedure to be found, well, pretty much in any person other than myself, as i am not very good at keeping those records (how's that for a really lame offering from me???) - would be of help in identifying trouble spots/areas???...social would be my first stop...and now that the toxins are gone, how's about the conscience??? that seems to be the thorn in your side....be well, yours, c
> Update: I am feeling measurably better today, so perhaps these toxins are exiting my system (finally).
>
> Next: do something intellectual (Oracle data warehousing, calculus, Doestoevsky), and stimulating (video games).
>
> It's as if I need a daily metric to measure the level of cognition I have for the day.
>
> I wear sweats and a t-shirt most days (easier to go to the gym with), rarely get to the office before noon, and have a relaxed work atmosphere. But none of this matters if I can't concentrate on the work to begin with, hence the stress.
>
> I, too, live a spartan lifestyle. I think that's because I spend far too much money on books, food, and New York outings than I do on possessions like, you know, a TV or a couch.
>
> Thanks chemist, as usual, for your insights and support.
>
> Notice I've regressed to quoteless reply, as I ran out of text delimiters. ;)
>
> SQL> insert into dual values ( 'Y' );
>
> amd
Posted by chemist on May 15, 2005, at 18:37:36
In reply to Re: ...but look at the bright side... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 11, 2005, at 18:33:05
> It's the executive functions I fear losing most. And my job. I am accustomed to a steady income and being broke -- isn't that the curse of bipolar. Not two dozen snake-bite kits: my conpulsive spending is on books and CD's. But obviously, I'd be homeless without my job.
>
hello there, amd...it took a few days and a daydream to realize that you slipped one past me, not a difficult task, really...but the reference to goodwin and jamison is very nicely couched, indeed: more proof that reading is a must...best, chemist
Posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:33:38
In reply to Re: ... » AMD, posted by chemist on May 15, 2005, at 2:54:16
No sooner am I feeling better than I'm out drinking and "drugging," as the NA'ers so lovingly call it, again. From Thursday night until 3 p.m. the day after. And then going to the office Friday, smelling of alcohol, before realizing -- hmm, perhaps that's not the best idea.
This was Thursday night, and now it's Sunday, and yet, unlike any time before, *I still feel high*. Not high, "cocaine high," but high "Ican'tseemtotypefastenoughandmythoughtsarenotclear " high.
I don't see how this could possibly be the cocaine from the other night -- it's been, what, ~57 hours? I can't even add. What did I do to myself? For the first time in my life I literally feel like I am going crazy.
And I read these messages and want to cry, because you guys have been so supportive, and I have been nothing but a complete and utter failure.
This is either:
a) serious alcohol withdrawal-related dementia;
b) cocaine psychosis;
c) a full-blown manic episode;
d) something too terrible to write down.
Everything I've written in the past two months feels like a cakewalk compared to this. What is going on? Help!
amd
Posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:37:12
In reply to memory still working, it appears... » AMD, posted by chemist on May 15, 2005, at 18:37:36
>
> hello there, amd...it took a few days and a daydream to realize that you slipped one past me, not a difficult task, really...but the reference to goodwin and jamison is very nicely couched, indeed: more proof that reading is a must...best, chemistGood catch! I culled it from Jamison's "An Unquiet Mind," something I seem to be experiencing right now, in fact. I can type, I can "seem" to be with it (why did I do a double-take on the word 'seem'?), perhaps, in my replies. But I feel non-functional and unable to focus on a single thing. Word recall is just the beginning.
I am almost ready to go the emergency room. What did I do? :-(
Posted by chemist on May 16, 2005, at 0:42:10
In reply to HELP/URGENT! I AM OUT OF CONTROL! » chemist, posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:33:38
> No sooner am I feeling better than I'm out drinking and "drugging," as the NA'ers so lovingly call it, again. From Thursday night until 3 p.m. the day after. And then going to the office Friday, smelling of alcohol, before realizing -- hmm, perhaps that's not the best idea.
>**** hi amd, perhaps a trip to the ER is appropriate, if your subject line is any indicator...it sounds like you had a big night out..*****
> This was Thursday night, and now it's Sunday, and yet, unlike any time before, *I still feel high*. Not high, "cocaine high," but high "Ican'tseemtotypefastenoughandmythoughtsarenotclear " high.
>
> I don't see how this could possibly be the cocaine from the other night -- it's been, what, ~57 hours? I can't even add. What did I do to myself? For the first time in my life I literally feel like I am going crazy.
>
**** well, you took a lot of chemicals and mixed them and drank...and on top of the meds you are prescribed, not a favorable combo, in my opinion ****> And I read these messages and want to cry, because you guys have been so supportive, and I have been nothing but a complete and utter failure.
>
**** you have been trying to get your head on straight, i think, and it is not an overnight process: i feel saddened for you, as it appears that you triggered in yourself the feelings of guilt and remorse and panic, but i would not lable you a failure: that is a bit extreme and out of line...who am i to judge?****> This is either:
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> a) serious alcohol withdrawal-related dementia;
>
> b) cocaine psychosis;
>
> c) a full-blown manic episode;
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> d) something too terrible to write down.
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> Everything I've written in the past two months feels like a cakewalk compared to this. What is going on? Help!
>
> amd
>
>
*** here is what's going on, because you ask: you are mixing alcohol, cocaine, and (? three?) prescription medications on what appears to be a more than very irregular basis, and you feel lousy for days afterwards. that's the long and short of it, really....yours, chemist *****
Posted by chemist on May 16, 2005, at 0:45:02
In reply to Re: memory still working, it appears... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:37:12
> >
> > hello there, amd...it took a few days and a daydream to realize that you slipped one past me, not a difficult task, really...but the reference to goodwin and jamison is very nicely couched, indeed: more proof that reading is a must...best, chemist
>
> Good catch! I culled it from Jamison's "An Unquiet Mind," something I seem to be experiencing right now, in fact. I can type, I can "seem" to be with it (why did I do a double-take on the word 'seem'?), perhaps, in my replies. But I feel non-functional and unable to focus on a single thing. Word recall is just the beginning.
>
> I am almost ready to go the emergency room. What did I do? :-(
>*** you did something you keep doing and are feeling bad about it. by all means, go to the ER: you need to get a clean bill of health or be advised if any problems that are lurking need be addressed....yours, chemist****
Posted by AMD on May 16, 2005, at 2:16:00
In reply to Re: HELP/URGENT! I AM OUT OF CONTROL! » AMD, posted by chemist on May 16, 2005, at 0:42:10
> **** hi amd, perhaps a trip to the ER is appropriate, if your subject line is any indicator...it sounds like you had a big night out..*****
I think I will call my doctor in the morning and see what she thinks. I am feeling a bit more mellow (if one can use the word "mellow" in this state) than I was a few hours ago, which is good. And yes, mixing Lamictal, Celexa, Geodon, Seroquel, cocaine, alcohol, and cigarettes in such a small period of time is a recipe for disaster.
I've never felt "wired" for this long, though. I wonder if that is more a result of Geodon's extrapyramidal symptoms than the cocaine withdrawal. Or perhaps the cocaine was cut with methamphetamine, although, this being New York, I wouldn't normally expect that.
I'm just having a tough time of it, but to a degree I've never before experienced. The calmness of your reply, at least, will help keep me grounded.
I need a full physical, that's for sure. Who knows what damage I've done to my liver in these three months? Let alone my nose and heart.
> **** you have been trying to get your head on straight, i think, and it is not an overnight process: i feel saddened for you, as it appears that you triggered in yourself the feelings of guilt and remorse and panic, but i would not lable you a failure: that is a bit extreme and out of line...who am i to judge?****
>You're probably right -- but I certainly don't want to die because of this (knock on wood). And I'm afraid I'm on a slippery slope down that path (if not already there). I just hope I can pull myself out of this via N.A. meetings and the support of friends and family.
> >
> *** here is what's going on, because you ask: you are mixing alcohol, cocaine, and (? three?) prescription medications on what appears to be a more than very irregular basis, and you feel lousy for days afterwards. that's the long and short of it, really....yours, chemist *****I'll check back in in a week and let you know how I'm doing, as the questions that accompany these daily ups-and-downs are more exhausting for you than you deserve.
Thanks chemist,
amd
Posted by AMD on May 16, 2005, at 19:12:55
In reply to A *little* calmer... but... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 16, 2005, at 2:16:00
I'm back early. With questions.
Am I doomed to get Parkinson's disease now that I've done the cocaine and one-time methamphetamine (if that's what it was). Also, is it too late to get tested to see if I /did/ take crystal? And if not via urine, what about a hair sample? Where could I get this done, how long does it take, and how accurate are the results?
Thanks,
amd
Posted by AuntieMel on May 17, 2005, at 11:31:45
In reply to A *little* calmer... but... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 16, 2005, at 2:16:00
For what my opinion's worth.
You seem to be going up and down, back and forth with blinding speed, and it's getting quicker, not slower. You hate what you are doing, but don't seem to be able to stop. Each trip out convinces you that you have done some type of severe damage to your body.
One of two things seem to be likely - either you no longer have control over what you do or you are actually intending to do harm to yourself.
If the first is true, please check yourself into rehab. It sounds like controlled detox is in order, and the folks in hospital will at least give you rudimentary skills to go forward.
Following that with intensive outpatient therapy will help round out the toolbox.
I've done it. It didn't hurt and I'm still dry 2 years later.
Posted by sunny10 on May 17, 2005, at 14:51:54
In reply to Re: A *little* calmer... but... » AMD, posted by AuntieMel on May 17, 2005, at 11:31:45
as a "not whole" "euphoriaphobe", my opinion is that what AuntieMel said is spot on.
Actually, with one amendment. Whether you are out of control OR out to hurt yourself, it is time to bring in some outside professional help for yourself.
What kind of life is it if you hate yourself or scare yourself for five out of every seven days?
Can you still even calling it "getting high"? It has been sounding to me lately like you having been "getting low"...
If I really thought you were enjoying yourself, I wouldn't say anything at all to censor your activities.
Worried about you,
sunny10
Posted by AMD on May 17, 2005, at 18:35:44
In reply to Re: A *little* calmer... but..., posted by sunny10 on May 17, 2005, at 14:51:54
Good input, you two.
It's definitely a problem -- but the scary thing is, it's almost like it's someone else who takes control of my body once I've had a drink. I don't even /want/ to do the drugs. I don't like them, not even while I'm doing them. But something grabs hold of me ... and I do too much. Next thing I know, I'm down and out for a week.
This is day four, and I feel unable to focus. My head is spinning. I'm sniffing like crazy -- I hope that will heal itself, at least. And worse, and I haven't been to the gym in the entire four days.
Listen to me ... I'm not making any sense. Shouldn't I be /improving/ in my symptoms, not heading in the opposite direction?
amd
Posted by chemist on May 17, 2005, at 21:29:45
In reply to Re: A *little* calmer... but..., posted by AMD on May 17, 2005, at 18:35:44
hello there, amd...in addition to what i opine to be very wise words from mel and sunny...the mention - again - of the ``first drink'' hints, to me, that the problem lies with alcohol primarily...again, i am not a person who has felt the tug of addiction: i know that some people can ``just stop'' drinking, and for others, it is a different story.
if you can head off the booze, then perhaps the rest is just academic, as the urge is not acted upon...in any event, my present addiction/obsession with work means longs hours, little sleep, and forgetting about the bills, phone calls, etc. until now...back in a few (days) when things are sorted....be well, yours, c
> Good input, you two.
>
> It's definitely a problem -- but the scary thing is, it's almost like it's someone else who takes control of my body once I've had a drink. I don't even /want/ to do the drugs. I don't like them, not even while I'm doing them. But something grabs hold of me ... and I do too much. Next thing I know, I'm down and out for a week.
>
> This is day four, and I feel unable to focus. My head is spinning. I'm sniffing like crazy -- I hope that will heal itself, at least. And worse, and I haven't been to the gym in the entire four days.
>
> Listen to me ... I'm not making any sense. Shouldn't I be /improving/ in my symptoms, not heading in the opposite direction?
>
> amd
>
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 18, 2005, at 0:02:21
In reply to Re: memory still working, it appears... » chemist, posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:37:12
> I culled it from Jamison's "An Unquiet Mind"
I'd just like to plug the double double quotes feature at this site:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#amazon
The first time anyone refers to a book, movie, or music without using this option, I post this to try to make sure he or she at least knows about it. It's just an option, though, and doesn't *have* to be used. If people *choose* not to use it, I'd be interested why not, but I'd like that redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20020918/msgs/7717.html
Thanks!
Bob
Posted by 4WD on May 19, 2005, at 21:53:16
In reply to HELP/URGENT! I AM OUT OF CONTROL! » chemist, posted by AMD on May 15, 2005, at 23:33:38
> No sooner am I feeling better than I'm out drinking and "drugging," as the NA'ers so lovingly call it, again. From Thursday night until 3 p.m. the day after. And then going to the office Friday, smelling of alcohol, before realizing -- hmm, perhaps that's not the best idea.
>
> This was Thursday night, and now it's Sunday, and yet, unlike any time before, *I still feel high*. Not high, "cocaine high," but high "Ican'tseemtotypefastenoughandmythoughtsarenotclear " high.
>
> I don't see how this could possibly be the cocaine from the other night -- it's been, what, ~57 hours? I can't even add. What did I do to myself? For the first time in my life I literally feel like I am going crazy.
>
> And I read these messages and want to cry, because you guys have been so supportive, and I have been nothing but a complete and utter failure.
>
> This is either:
>
> a) serious alcohol withdrawal-related dementia;
>
> b) cocaine psychosis;
>
> c) a full-blown manic episode;
>
> d) something too terrible to write down.
>
> Everything I've written in the past two months feels like a cakewalk compared to this. What is going on? Help!
>
> amd
>AMD,
My heart is with you. I just started NA meetings two months ago. I started because of the psychiatric consequences of my drug abuse. The drugs were still fun; the consequences became more serious every time out.
If you want to talk via posting or Babblemail, I'd be glad to. I hope I can be of help.
Marsha
Posted by AuntieMel on May 20, 2005, at 13:55:57
In reply to Re: A *little* calmer... but... » AMD, posted by chemist on May 17, 2005, at 21:29:45
Actually if there is addiction to any substance it is better to stay away from *all* mood altering substances.
An example would be a guy that went through IOP with me. His addiction (drug of choice) is crack. He was doing really, really well - had about 3 months sober, was allowed to see his kids again, job was going great, etc.
Somehow (although warned!) he convinced himself that a glass of wine with dinner at night would be ok because it isn't his drug of choice.
The wine made him feel just good enough that the crack called him. And the wine lowered his will power. Last I heard he was out on the street, lost his job - the whole picture.
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