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Posted by yesac on July 9, 2003, at 21:01:36
I feel like it is getting worse as I sit here. I feel very desperate in some ways. It fluctuates minute by minute. I am tempted to call my psychiatrist right now, but I'm going to wait till tomorrow morning. I'm already supposed to see him on Friday, but I feel like that's too far away and I need to see him sooner. This is almost a crisis I feel like. Although I really don't know when to call something a crisis. But I just need to go home, chill out, make a list of all the stupid bulls**t I need to do, try to read though I know that won't happen, go to bed. That's all I need to do. Why does this feel like a crisis, like I am being sucked downward with each passing second when I am just sitting here?
Posted by Emme on July 9, 2003, at 22:31:09
In reply to worse and worse, posted by yesac on July 9, 2003, at 21:01:36
I'm so sorry you're feeling this way. The abyss... I think you shcould call your doctor. Now. If you're not sure if you're in crisis, then you may very well be. I'm sure your doctor wouldn't want you to be enduring agony. Maybe just a short conversation with him would take the edge off - reassurance and maybe some advice. See if you an get in there to see him tomorrow. We can offer as much support as we can here as well. When I was riding on the edge last week, just talking to my pdoc and having reassurance of her support helped break through some of the terror.
Is there someone you can call on the phone to hear a friendly voice? And keep checking here. The troops are gonna rally to your suport. Do you have any funny videos to watch. Think distraction. Keep your mind as distracted as possible till sleep takes over. Hang on tight. I truly hope the morning is better for you.
Emme
> I feel like it is getting worse as I sit here. I feel very desperate in some ways. It fluctuates minute by minute. I am tempted to call my psychiatrist right now, but I'm going to wait till tomorrow morning. I'm already supposed to see him on Friday, but I feel like that's too far away and I need to see him sooner. This is almost a crisis I feel like. Although I really don't know when to call something a crisis. But I just need to go home, chill out, make a list of all the stupid bulls**t I need to do, try to read though I know that won't happen, go to bed. That's all I need to do. Why does this feel like a crisis, like I am being sucked downward with each passing second when I am just sitting here?
Posted by Penny on July 10, 2003, at 7:56:44
In reply to worse and worse, posted by yesac on July 9, 2003, at 21:01:36
Sent you an email just a minute ago (almost 9 a.m.). Did you call your doc last night or are you calling him this morning???
Hoping you are feeling a little more grounded today.
Penny
Posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 8:10:49
In reply to worse and worse, posted by yesac on July 9, 2003, at 21:01:36
I hope that you have called, too. Please call your pdoc now if you haven't - you could see him today.
Let us know how it is going.
Posted by yesac on July 10, 2003, at 9:25:20
In reply to Re: worse and worse » yesac, posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 8:10:49
I didn't end up calling him last night. I had taken my trazodone and it hit pretty strongly, so I just went home and went to bed. I haven't called him today either because I just haven't gotten the chance. It's hard at work because it's just not very private here. I think I can stick it out till tomorrow, but I can always call him later if necessary. He has his home number on his message and has said to call him if I ever need to, which I have done twice in the past few months (since I've been seeing him).
Today has started basically okay. I actually really like getting ready in the morning (odd, huh?). Still. I don't feel good. I keep thinking about how I am so plagued, constantly enveloped by a dark cloud. Even if I feel more okay for a few minutes or a while, the cloud is always lingering. It is so hard, you guys. I'm sure you know. Why can't I just be cheerful and happy-go-lucky?
One thing made me feel somewhat worse this morning... my roomate informed me that everything in the kitchen will be gone by tomorrow. She's moving out and it is all hers. I'm not sure what she means by "everything", but in any case it really sucks.
I should go, but thanks for your responses.
Posted by fallsfall on July 10, 2003, at 16:30:57
In reply to so far today..., posted by yesac on July 10, 2003, at 9:25:20
Posted by whiterabbit on July 10, 2003, at 21:04:39
In reply to so far today..., posted by yesac on July 10, 2003, at 9:25:20
Casey-just wanted to let you know that when I was feeling like you're feeling now, NO amount of therapy would have helped me. You've GOT to get the depression under control first, is Trazadone an SSRI? Has your psychiatrist given you a specific diagnosis? What anti-depressants have you tried?If the thought in your head right now is, Gracie you ASK ME THAT THREE TIMES A WEEK, I'll tell you the truth...in a lot of ways my brain is working quite well, but my memory is still screwed up. My mind is kind of like a sieve or strainer these days, it catches the big stuff but a lot gets away from me too. So if I ask you the same stuff all the time...
I'm not too bummed out about it, I think I'm improving. Last year I lost five gas-caps and so far this year I've lost only one...maybe two. But definately not five.
-Gracie
Posted by Penny on July 10, 2003, at 22:33:00
In reply to What is Trazadone?, posted by whiterabbit on July 10, 2003, at 21:04:39
Gracie,
Trazodone is an AD, but not an SSRI, not sure what class it's in, but it's most commonly used now as a sleep med. When I was going through some major insomnia one time, my old doc gave me some trazodone and I slept like a baby. A friend of mine from Charlotte took it for like 15 years or something for sleep - from the time she was 13 years old. It worked well for me for a while, but eventually became overly sedating, even at the lowest dose, so I had to stop taking it. But it was so good at first!
Posted by PollyF on July 10, 2003, at 22:43:00
In reply to so far today..., posted by yesac on July 10, 2003, at 9:25:20
> I didn't end up calling him last night. I had taken my trazodone and it hit pretty strongly, so I just went home and went to bed. I haven't called him today either because I just haven't gotten the chance. It's hard at work because it's just not very private here. I think I can stick it out till tomorrow, but I can always call him later if necessary. He has his home number on his message and has said to call him if I ever need to, which I have done twice in the past few months (since I've been seeing him).
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> Today has started basically okay. I actually really like getting ready in the morning (odd, huh?). Still. I don't feel good. I keep thinking about how I am so plagued, constantly enveloped by a dark cloud. Even if I feel more okay for a few minutes or a while, the cloud is always lingering. It is so hard, you guys. I'm sure you know. Why can't I just be cheerful and happy-go-lucky?
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> One thing made me feel somewhat worse this morning... my roomate informed me that everything in the kitchen will be gone by tomorrow. She's moving out and it is all hers. I'm not sure what she means by "everything", but in any case it really sucks.
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> I should go, but thanks for your responses.I don't know what you suffer from apart from depression, I am a newbie here - but if you feel really bad call your psych, I know I have called mine many times over the years and she has always been there for me to help through and provide advice and support ( sometimes it has been a hospital stay - but I think that was more to watch me, in case I tried the dreaded deed again
About your therapist, give it a bit more time then change - I actually got nothing out of CBT - but the psychologist I was seeing was so very good looking...lol, so I kept seeing him. I went to a few group sessions, but everyone annoyed me, so I stopped going, before I killed someone ( only joking)
In a nutshell, my advice is to call your psychiatrist.
Posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 9:43:23
In reply to What is Trazadone?, posted by whiterabbit on July 10, 2003, at 21:04:39
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> Casey-just wanted to let you know that when I was feeling like you're feeling now, NO amount of therapy would have helped me. You've GOT to get the depression under control first, is Trazadone an SSRI? Has your psychiatrist given you a specific diagnosis? What anti-depressants have you tried?Yeah, like Penny said, I take trazodone for sleep only. I think it is one of those "unique" antidepressants that doesn't really fit into a class. But I think that hardly anyone actually uses it as an AD anymore. I am sure that my diagnosis is just plain old depression. I've tried quite a few meds and for the most part none of them helped after a fair trial - celexa, wellbutrin, effexor, paxil, risperdal, desipramine.... Now I am on Lamictal, which seemed to be actually helping for a while, but then I did a rather stupid thing of cutting my dose in half, just to see what would happen. Well, that probably has at least something to do with my recent crash. I've also been taking Parnate (an MAOI) for about a month with no improvement yet, but I think that my dose is too low and I'm going up tomorrow.
> I'm not too bummed out about it, I think I'm improving. Last year I lost five gas-caps and so far this year I've lost only one...maybe two. But definately not five.I think gas-cap loss is a good measurement of brain function! Maybe they should start to use that as an official measurement.
Posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 10:39:52
In reply to Re: so far today..., posted by PollyF on July 10, 2003, at 22:43:00
Well, I saw my doc first thing today, and we ended up doing pretty much what I knew we'd do, which is go back up on lamictal and go up on parnate. But I just feel bad because I didn't mention my suicidal thoughts as of late, and how when I was at home last week I kept having this thought that this could be the last time I see any of these people and the state and my kitty and all of it, and no one knows but me. I didn't mention that. I don't know why. Or even if it matters, but it seems like I should have said something. And now he's leaving for a week apparantly, so I feel like it will be bad for me to know he's not reachable. Of course, there's always my therapist. I feel hesitant to call her because... I don't really know, I just do. For one thing, she has never said to call her if I need to, which I know they don't have to say but it makes me feel less guilty and pathetic about it. I just wish that I could feel more sure about her. I hate this feeling of unsureness. I think it's holding me back, and it just makes me feel more depressed.
So anyways, I started off the day on a bad note. Then I called my DBT group facilitator to discuss how I don't feel "into" it and she wasn't too helpful, just said I should talk to my therapist, said it is probably the depression, stuff like that.
I feel alone, like no one is really there for me, no one can help me. It is so ridiculous to have all these mental health professionals in my life but it isn't enough. And all the medication trials and adjustments and everything. I'm so sick of it all.
I feel like this weekend could be really bad and I'll feel very alone and possibly desperate. I feel somewhat disconnected from my family and best friend, and my roomate situation is hellish although at least one of them is leaving today for a week. My doc will be away. I don't feel like I can call my therapist, although I suppose maybe I would if it really came down to that. Or I could do some wacked thing like hunt down my old therapist and call her, but that's so unethical in their minds, and I feel like she'd just say call a crisis number, which would make me feel worse.
It's all so f'ked up. I think I might possibly be making myself feel worse by rambling on like this though.
I also feel bad because on the board it seems like I just take take take - post about my own sorrows but don't respond much to other people. Sometimes, I am interested but just don't have a worthy response. Other times I can't get myself to read some of the posts because I think that they will depress me or they are too long or I just don't get the chance. How hypocritical. But I feel bad about that. It's not that I don't care.
Posted by PollyF on July 11, 2003, at 13:46:10
In reply to yet another bad day it seems, posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 10:39:52
> Well, I saw my doc first thing today, and we ended up doing pretty much what I knew we'd do, which is go back up on lamictal and go up on parnate. But I just feel bad because I didn't mention my suicidal thoughts as of late, and how when I was at home last week I kept having this thought that this could be the last time I see any of these people and the state and my kitty and all of it, and no one knows but me. I didn't mention that. I don't know why. Or even if it matters, but it seems like I should have said something. And now he's leaving for a week apparantly, so I feel like it will be bad for me to know he's not reachable. Of course, there's always my therapist. I feel hesitant to call her because... I don't really know, I just do. For one thing, she has never said to call her if I need to, which I know they don't have to say but it makes me feel less guilty and pathetic about it. I just wish that I could feel more sure about her. I hate this feeling of unsureness. I think it's holding me back, and it just makes me feel more depressed.
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> So anyways, I started off the day on a bad note. Then I called my DBT group facilitator to discuss how I don't feel "into" it and she wasn't too helpful, just said I should talk to my therapist, said it is probably the depression, stuff like that.
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> I feel alone, like no one is really there for me, no one can help me. It is so ridiculous to have all these mental health professionals in my life but it isn't enough. And all the medication trials and adjustments and everything. I'm so sick of it all.
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> I feel like this weekend could be really bad and I'll feel very alone and possibly desperate. I feel somewhat disconnected from my family and best friend, and my roomate situation is hellish although at least one of them is leaving today for a week. My doc will be away. I don't feel like I can call my therapist, although I suppose maybe I would if it really came down to that. Or I could do some wacked thing like hunt down my old therapist and call her, but that's so unethical in their minds, and I feel like she'd just say call a crisis number, which would make me feel worse.
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> It's all so f'ked up. I think I might possibly be making myself feel worse by rambling on like this though.
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> I also feel bad because on the board it seems like I just take take take - post about my own sorrows but don't respond much to other people. Sometimes, I am interested but just don't have a worthy response. Other times I can't get myself to read some of the posts because I think that they will depress me or they are too long or I just don't get the chance. How hypocritical. But I feel bad about that. It's not that I don't care.I know I am a newbie, but I have been in your situation, contemplating the easy way out, if you feel bad you can email me direct and i can talk with you....if you have msn messenger, I can chat with you on that, my msn name is crfitz2001@hotmail.com, don't feel bad about appearing not to respond to other people's posts, that is just part of the depression, SO DON"T GO KICKING YOURSELF!!!!
Let me know....
Christine ( Polly)
Posted by fallsfall on July 11, 2003, at 19:24:07
In reply to yet another bad day it seems, posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 10:39:52
> Well, I saw my doc first thing today, and we ended up doing pretty much what I knew we'd do, which is go back up on lamictal and go up on parnate. But I just feel bad because I didn't mention my suicidal thoughts as of late, and how when I was at home last week I kept having this thought that this could be the last time I see any of these people and the state and my kitty and all of it, and no one knows but me. I didn't mention that. I don't know why. Or even if it matters, but it seems like I should have said something.
It can be helpful for your pdoc and your therapist to know about your suicidal thoughts. Are these just thoughts, or are you thinking about acting on them? If they are starting to sound like a really good idea then you probably want to give someone a call. I would probably start with your therapist. I'm sure that if you are not usually suicidal that she wouldn't mind at all that you call. (If you are usually suicidal, then I'm sure you've talked about what to do). The Worst that could happen is that your therapist could not answer, or tell you to call the crisis line. Can you call someone in connection with your DBT class? The crisis line can be helpful, too. When I've called someone because I was suicidal, I've found them to be really nice. Sometimes they could calm me down, or give me a tool to use that helped me (my favorite was to draw a picture - crayons smell so good - that let me express what was bothering me). Sometimes they told me to go to the hospital (that was a good thing, too. It really helped). Noone ever got mad at me for calling.
And now he's leaving for a week apparantly, so I feel like it will be bad for me to know he's not reachable. Of course, there's always my therapist. I feel hesitant to call her because... I don't really know, I just do. For one thing, she has never said to call her if I need to, which I know they don't have to say but it makes me feel less guilty and pathetic about it. I just wish that I could feel more sure about her. I hate this feeling of unsureness. I think it's holding me back, and it just makes me feel more depressed.
What are you unsure about with your therapist? How long have you been seeing her?
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> So anyways, I started off the day on a bad note. Then I called my DBT group facilitator to discuss how I don't feel "into" it and she wasn't too helpful, just said I should talk to my therapist, said it is probably the depression, stuff like that.
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Why was your conversation with the DBT facilitator "on a bad note"? What did you want her to say? In what way do you not feel "into it"?> I feel alone, like no one is really there for me, no one can help me. It is so ridiculous to have all these mental health professionals in my life but it isn't enough. And all the medication trials and adjustments and everything. I'm so sick of it all.
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Boy do I understand that paragraph!!! All the drugs, all the people, but still you feel lousy. When you figure out how to fix this, let me know.> I feel like this weekend could be really bad and I'll feel very alone and possibly desperate. I feel somewhat disconnected from my family and best friend, and my roomate situation is hellish although at least one of them is leaving today for a week. My doc will be away. I don't feel like I can call my therapist, although I suppose maybe I would if it really came down to that. Or I could do some wacked thing like hunt down my old therapist and call her, but that's so unethical in their minds, and I feel like she'd just say call a crisis number, which would make me feel worse.
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Your family and best friend would be logical choices to talk to. What do you mean that you feel "disconnected"? What would happen if you called them?> It's all so f'ked up. I think I might possibly be making myself feel worse by rambling on like this though.
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> I also feel bad because on the board it seems like I just take take take - post about my own sorrows but don't respond much to other people. Sometimes, I am interested but just don't have a worthy response. Other times I can't get myself to read some of the posts because I think that they will depress me or they are too long or I just don't get the chance. How hypocritical. But I feel bad about that. It's not that I don't care.Don't worry about us, each of us gets help from the board sometimes and gives help other times. You will have your turn. Right now, though, you are having a rough time, and you need some help. That is fine. If you aren't getting the help you need, please ask again - maybe we don't understand what you need.
Most of us have been where you are. It's no fun. People can help keep from sliding down the slope. Here's my hand. Hold on!
Posted by Emme on July 11, 2003, at 23:01:26
In reply to yet another bad day it seems, posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 10:39:52
Your pdoc needs to know about your suicidal thoughts. If you are close to acting on them, please please, go to the hospital. Even if you don't feel close to acting on them, they are a barometer of the level of pain you are in. Tell the doc about them when he gets back. I find it's terribly hard to talk about these things, so I sure understand why you didn't mention them at your visit.
> Of course, there's always my therapist. I feel hesitant to call her because... I don't really know, I just do. For one thing, she has never said to call her if I need to, which I know they don't have to say but it makes me feel less guilty and pathetic about it. I just wish that I could feel more sure about her.
How are your sessions with her? Does she seem kind and responsive when you are there? It's always nice to have that verbal reassurance that you can call her, but she may be taking it for granted that you know you can call her. With your pdoc away, she's the first line of defense. You need some words from a friendly voice to help break through some of the isolation of the depression. The board, of course, will give you as many written words as possible! :)
> I feel alone, like no one is really there for me, no one can help me. It is so ridiculous to have all these mental health professionals in my life but it isn't enough. And all the medication trials and adjustments and everything. I'm so sick of it all.Hoo boy. Yeah, it's tough. And the nature of depression is that it's isolating.
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> It's all so f'ked up. I think I might possibly be making myself feel worse by rambling on like this though.This sounds a lot like the frightened, cornered feeling I get when I've gone whoosh - down the rabbit hole of despair. Keep writing here and don't feel bad AT ALL about how much you give or take. People come and go and give and take at different times. If I recall correctly, you've written kind posts to people. You contribute. Don't add any more guilt or bad feelings to your plate. Keep on posting and I do hope the weekend will be okay for you.
Emme
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Posted by kara lynne on July 12, 2003, at 1:06:01
In reply to Re: yet another bad day it seems » yesac, posted by Emme on July 11, 2003, at 23:01:26
I'm pretty messed up myself, right now, but I can certainly relate to the feelings you're going through. It can be so terribly lonely sometimes. I hope your'e feeling better.
Posted by Penny on July 12, 2003, at 9:03:58
In reply to yet another bad day it seems, posted by yesac on July 11, 2003, at 10:39:52
Sorry I didn't get to your emails, but thanks for sending them.
I only have a moment but just wanted to say that I am concerned and I hope you will call someone if you need to this weekend. As you know, you CAN call me. I'm here. Any time.
If all else fails, please don't give, please go to the hospital.
Who knows? I may be there with you.
Not feeling so good myself right now, so I'm afraid I'm not much help, but I am thinking about you and will be glad to listen if you need to talk.
Please take care.
P
Posted by yesac on July 12, 2003, at 14:58:32
In reply to Re: This weekend. » yesac, posted by Penny on July 12, 2003, at 9:03:58
Thanks for all the words of support.
Today seems to be going okay so far. Not sure why or what's different than the past few days, but I feel okay. I'm sort of excited about these goals that I've come up with for myself. Most of them really aren't anything that big, just smallish things to hopefully help me get a little more out of my life right now - like really trying to read more, even if it's really easy books, watching tv and crocheting, trying to eat more healthfully and do some kind of exercise. I used to be in good shape but it's really fallen off over the past months due to stress and depression, etc. But I realized that I am practically inactive except walking around from my car to the store and stuff like that. I have some bigger goals like planning some day/weekend trips to explore the state more and just try to get out into the sun to enjoy the summer.
I don't know. Now my life is so dull and horrid it just seems like I need to do something to get more involved in life and try to enjoy it a bit more.
Also... about talking to my doc about suicidal thoughts. I definitely have in the past, and with therapists sometimes talked a blue streak about suicide. But for some reason yesterday I couldn't bring it up. And I felt bad about that since the thoughts have really come back full force lately. I don't have any plans to act on them for now (ie today or tomorrow or anytime really) but of course we all know that can easily change. But, one thing is that I never actually have acted on any of these thoughts, though they certainly have been very serious at times, and I've been quite close.
Well, I think that I will go home and sit on the porch and call my sister. And try to appreciate feeling okay while it lasts.
Posted by fallsfall on July 12, 2003, at 18:31:20
In reply to Today seems decent, posted by yesac on July 12, 2003, at 14:58:32
Posted by PollyF on July 12, 2003, at 22:38:34
In reply to Today seems decent, posted by yesac on July 12, 2003, at 14:58:32
I am so glad to hear all that, you sound like you are putting that first step forward, remember though, we take two steps forward and maybe one step back, along the way. Enjoy, what you are trying to do.
Talk to you soon.
> Thanks for all the words of support.
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> Today seems to be going okay so far. Not sure why or what's different than the past few days, but I feel okay. I'm sort of excited about these goals that I've come up with for myself. Most of them really aren't anything that big, just smallish things to hopefully help me get a little more out of my life right now - like really trying to read more, even if it's really easy books, watching tv and crocheting, trying to eat more healthfully and do some kind of exercise. I used to be in good shape but it's really fallen off over the past months due to stress and depression, etc. But I realized that I am practically inactive except walking around from my car to the store and stuff like that. I have some bigger goals like planning some day/weekend trips to explore the state more and just try to get out into the sun to enjoy the summer.
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> I don't know. Now my life is so dull and horrid it just seems like I need to do something to get more involved in life and try to enjoy it a bit more.
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> Also... about talking to my doc about suicidal thoughts. I definitely have in the past, and with therapists sometimes talked a blue streak about suicide. But for some reason yesterday I couldn't bring it up. And I felt bad about that since the thoughts have really come back full force lately. I don't have any plans to act on them for now (ie today or tomorrow or anytime really) but of course we all know that can easily change. But, one thing is that I never actually have acted on any of these thoughts, though they certainly have been very serious at times, and I've been quite close.
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> Well, I think that I will go home and sit on the porch and call my sister. And try to appreciate feeling okay while it lasts.
Posted by noa on July 13, 2003, at 10:28:17
In reply to Today seems decent, posted by yesac on July 12, 2003, at 14:58:32
Y,
I am glad to hear your mood is a bit better. If you are thinking about small goals, that is a good sign. Don't think too much about the big ones yet. I know that can overwhelm me, anyway.
I need to start exercising again, too. In fact, I am trying to get myself to the gym this morning. Haven't been in ages and ages. Every month, they take out the fee thru electronic debiting, so I've been kind of like a silent benefactor of the club rather than a member! It's time to stop donating money to the club and start using it. Well, we'll see if I can follow thru.
Enjoy the slight repreive you are having.
Posted by yesac on July 13, 2003, at 15:21:24
In reply to Re: Today seems decent » yesac, posted by noa on July 13, 2003, at 10:28:17
I do actually feel a little overwhelmed/stressed about the bigger goals. It's ironic - these are supposed to be things to help "improve" my life and help me get more out of my time, but yet they are stressful and in some ways I just feel like, even with the smaller things, it is just easier to stay with my boring routine that I've fallen into and continue to be bored and miserable. Not that I even think that these goals will make me much less miserable, but at least help me feel like I'm doing something and TRYING to get out and experience life. But I don't know, sometimes it all just really seems like too much effort.
About the exercising - I'd like to join a gym because I actually think I'm a lot better about it when I have to pay for it. Plus, I like the equiptment and stuff. But I feel right now like I can't even afford to join.
Good luck with getting to the gym!
Posted by noa on July 14, 2003, at 0:45:19
In reply to goals and exercising » noa, posted by yesac on July 13, 2003, at 15:21:24
I actually went! And I liked it. I have liked it before, but was a bit surprised at liking it first time back in so many many months. Maybe close to a year, even, because they started using new cards to record weight training, and I asked one of the staff when they started using the new cards, and he said they've been using them as long as he's been there, which is about a year. Yikes. Has it been a year?
I enjoyed the exercised more than expected. At first, I didn't think I'd make it to 3 minutes on the eliptical trainer, and then didn't think I'd make it to 10, but then I started liking it and got into a groove and did 25 minutes. After that, I did some weight machines and even the ab cruncher (I'll probably feel that one tomorrow).
I like the gym on weekends because I can take a leisurely pace. Let's see if I can get myself back there at decent intervals.
The exercise felt good for my akithisia, I think. My leg muscles felt like they really needed the movement.
As for goals, yesac, focus on somehting really small and do-able. I, too, have gotten into some routines that I don't want to keep going, but are hard to change.
Posted by fallsfall on July 14, 2003, at 8:47:56
In reply to Re: goals and exercising, posted by noa on July 14, 2003, at 0:45:19
Posted by Dinah on July 14, 2003, at 17:23:26
In reply to Re: goals and exercising, posted by noa on July 14, 2003, at 0:45:19
That's great! I'm so impressed. My husband has taken to going to the gym twice a week, and he really seems more relaxed.
I mowed the lawn and felt absolutely terrible. Does work/exercise have a different effect?
Posted by Penny on July 14, 2003, at 17:38:00
In reply to Re: goals and exercising » noa, posted by Dinah on July 14, 2003, at 17:23:26
I have yet to feel better after exercising! My gp tells me every time I see her "remember, exercise releases endorphins" and I almost want to gag.
I think it's fantastic when folks can exercise and it makes them feel better. For me, I don't know. I guess if I was in better shape. And I certainly NEED to exercise. I have managed to take my dogs for a walk almost every day for a couple of weeks, in the evening, when it cools off some.
As for mowing the lawn - I don't know what part of the country you're in, but could it also have been the heat???
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