Posted by francesco on November 26, 2003, at 3:41:52
In reply to tyrosine/tryptophan » Francesco , posted by DSCH on November 25, 2003, at 21:17:26
> OK, in the past you have said Anafranil has made you more like "Overfocused ADD" than "Inattentive-type ADD" (which is what you are like off-meds/supplements)> Am I thinking correctly that Ritalin and tyrosine make you even more "Overfocused" than Anafranil did?
> Or is overfocus on Anafranil of a different form altogether than overfocus on Ritalin/tyrosine?
Both are correct. But the second is more correct.
I don't think anymore that Anafranil made me "overfocused" in the proper sense of the term now that I know what "overfocusing" is.
I want also to correct my self about the things I said on Anafranil. When I posted about the Anafranil I didn't have in mind what happened after some months of Anafranil but also what happened after some day.I think that all my arguments were vitiated by the fact that I didn't want to come back to Anafranil so I was not objective at all. I'm not sure anymore that I got overfocused in any sense of the term when I was on it after some months.
It's difficult anyway to remember because the last period I was on Anafranil for a consistent period of time was three years ago.
Maybe what I can save of what I have said is that I got stuck into (studish) things but I liked it. I was perfectionist with I also the weapons to tend to "perfection". That's the reason why I talked about OCD-personality-like.
I save also the social-phobia-like part. It was hard to admit that Anafranil after some months made wonders for the concentration part of my problems because I was scared about the idea of having to consider it again.
I save also sex-avoidance and weight gain but these are common side-effects. I will return on it anyway.
Thanks for answering me all these things and remember me what I've said in past. It's very helpful.
> This is called 'being male'. ;-) Just kidding. Maybe this is an indicator of serotonin drop as the empathogenic drugs like MDMA (XTC) are serotonergic.
You're totally right !!! I feel more 'male' in the sense you were kidding about !
I have never been so 'male' in my whole life.Why did I experience serotonin drop ? I mean ... did you mean that 'pumping up' dopamine (with L-tyrsone) can drop serotonin or something else ?
> How would compare the effects of tyrosine to those of tryptophan?
Difficult question. What I can say for sure is that triptophan makes me depressed. Maybe because I consider my problems in a more objective light. I start to think that I'm doing anything for my PHD and that I have to come back to TCA and things like this. But I'm not sure psycological axpects can explain all the depression feelings I have with serotoninergic meds. I will come back on differences between tripthophan and tyrosine when my ideas about them will get clearer.
> Have you tried tyrosine in the morning and tryptophan at night? This might help even things out. Trytophan normally helps with sleep (but then again you are not normal!). :-)
Ok, I have never tried this despite you're previous suggestion but I think it's worth of a trial. I will let you know how the experiment goes.
The things that bothers here and now is that I took tyrosine an hour ago and I have a sense of pression in the right ear like yesterday. Yesterday I measured my blood pressure and it was normal. What was not normal were my heart-rate-pulses. 90-something : /
Does Ginko helps also with this ? I'm not sure anyway tyrosine is the only culprit because ...
I took a Xanax yesterday evening
I smoke 20 or more strong cigarettes per day.
I'm taking also Malvapur (malva sylvestris) for urological problems.
Yesterday evening I took also 225 mg of Magnesium.
Tommorrow morning I took also a cup of coffe.
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