Psycho-Babble Alternative | about alternative treatments | Framed
This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | List of forums | Search | FAQ

Re: tyrosine/tryptophan

Posted by francesco on November 26, 2003, at 3:41:52

In reply to tyrosine/tryptophan » Francesco , posted by DSCH on November 25, 2003, at 21:17:26


> OK, in the past you have said Anafranil has made you more like "Overfocused ADD" than "Inattentive-type ADD" (which is what you are like off-meds/supplements)

> Am I thinking correctly that Ritalin and tyrosine make you even more "Overfocused" than Anafranil did?

> Or is overfocus on Anafranil of a different form altogether than overfocus on Ritalin/tyrosine?

Both are correct. But the second is more correct.
I don't think anymore that Anafranil made me "overfocused" in the proper sense of the term now that I know what "overfocusing" is.

I want also to correct my self about the things I said on Anafranil. When I posted about the Anafranil I didn't have in mind what happened after some months of Anafranil but also what happened after some day.

I think that all my arguments were vitiated by the fact that I didn't want to come back to Anafranil so I was not objective at all. I'm not sure anymore that I got overfocused in any sense of the term when I was on it after some months.

It's difficult anyway to remember because the last period I was on Anafranil for a consistent period of time was three years ago.

Maybe what I can save of what I have said is that I got stuck into (studish) things but I liked it. I was perfectionist with I also the weapons to tend to "perfection". That's the reason why I talked about OCD-personality-like.

I save also the social-phobia-like part. It was hard to admit that Anafranil after some months made wonders for the concentration part of my problems because I was scared about the idea of having to consider it again.

I save also sex-avoidance and weight gain but these are common side-effects. I will return on it anyway.

Thanks for answering me all these things and remember me what I've said in past. It's very helpful.

> This is called 'being male'. ;-) Just kidding. Maybe this is an indicator of serotonin drop as the empathogenic drugs like MDMA (XTC) are serotonergic.

You're totally right !!! I feel more 'male' in the sense you were kidding about !
I have never been so 'male' in my whole life.

Why did I experience serotonin drop ? I mean ... did you mean that 'pumping up' dopamine (with L-tyrsone) can drop serotonin or something else ?

> How would compare the effects of tyrosine to those of tryptophan?

Difficult question. What I can say for sure is that triptophan makes me depressed. Maybe because I consider my problems in a more objective light. I start to think that I'm doing anything for my PHD and that I have to come back to TCA and things like this. But I'm not sure psycological axpects can explain all the depression feelings I have with serotoninergic meds. I will come back on differences between tripthophan and tyrosine when my ideas about them will get clearer.

> Have you tried tyrosine in the morning and tryptophan at night? This might help even things out. Trytophan normally helps with sleep (but then again you are not normal!). :-)

Ok, I have never tried this despite you're previous suggestion but I think it's worth of a trial. I will let you know how the experiment goes.

The things that bothers here and now is that I took tyrosine an hour ago and I have a sense of pression in the right ear like yesterday. Yesterday I measured my blood pressure and it was normal. What was not normal were my heart-rate-pulses. 90-something : /

Does Ginko helps also with this ? I'm not sure anyway tyrosine is the only culprit because ...

I took a Xanax yesterday evening
I smoke 20 or more strong cigarettes per day.
I'm taking also Malvapur (malva sylvestris) for urological problems.
Yesterday evening I took also 225 mg of Magnesium.
Tommorrow morning I took also a cup of coffe.


Share
Tweet  

Thread

 

Post a new follow-up

Your message only Include above post


Notify the administrators

They will then review this post with the posting guidelines in mind.

To contact them about something other than this post, please use this form instead.

 

Start a new thread

 
Google
dr-bob.org www
Search options and examples
[amazon] for
in

This thread | Show all | Post follow-up | Start new thread | FAQ
Psycho-Babble Alternative | Framed

poster:francesco thread:283254
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/alter/20031122/msgs/283938.html