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tyrosine/tryptophan » Francesco

Posted by DSCH on November 25, 2003, at 21:17:26

In reply to tyrosine answers : ) (long but detailed) » DSCH, posted by Francesco on November 25, 2003, at 15:57:32

> > Our advice to you is dependent upon how clear and complete your feedback is.
>
> You're right. I sometimes used Psycho-Babble to express my feelings rather than to provide or asking information, or at least I mixed the two.
> Now I understand that this can be harmful for me and for the others who read my posts. I'll try to pay more attention in the future ... If I'm excited or depressed maybe call of a friend or have a walk can be more useful in the long run.
> I'm a bit ashamed now of the posts I have been posted, not to talk about private mails. Sorry.

No need to feel ashamed. Getting things a bit mixed up is part of what the malady is all about isn't it?

You can mix support with calls for advice on this part of the board to an extent. PB Social is where you can post if you are just looking for support.

Don't get too down on yourself about it. Just consider it instead a reminder that sometimes you can confuse us out here. ;-)

> Ok. Tyrosine targets some of my adhd syntoms.
> It helps to with organization and procrastination, to say any.
>
> To make an example yesterday I was able to read a map of my city to explain my father how to drive to reach a place and we were also late for the appointment. Normally I don't even try to read a map. When I'm under the affect of it I can decide a list of things I *have to* do and make them in sequence without being distracted. For ex. going to a shop and then to another and then to another one.
>
> There comes the overfocusing part. I experienced this problem with Ritalin for the very first time and to some extent also with tyrosine. I begin to think to something so intensely that all the other things disappear. One week ago I was following a graphology lesson and I was writing what the teacher was saying and thinking to something else at the same time. The teacher said something to me but I didn't understand she was talking to me in the first ten seconds or so.
>
> I didn't have never experienced this kind of problems when I was on Anafranil or without meds. "Normally" I'm reactive to external stimuli, my thinking and my speech are fast (even if they don't usually point to a particular direction ...)

OK, in the past you have said Anafranil has made you more like "Overfocused ADD" than "Inattentive-type ADD" (which is what you are like off-meds/supplements). Am I thinking correctly that Ritalin and tyrosine make you even more "Overfocused" than Anafranil did?

Or is overfocus on Anafranil of a different form altogether than overfocus on Ritalin/tyrosine?

> Another thing that happen when I'm on tyrosine is that I become interested in "facts" (how to do things and how things must be done), a reaction similar to the one I had on Ritalin. I tend to ask people things about facts, rather than how they feel or "unessential" things.

This is called 'being male'. ;-) Just kidding. Maybe this is an indicator of serotonin drop as the empathogenic drugs like MDMA (XTC) are serotonergic.

How would compare the effects of tyrosine to those of tryptophan?

Have you tried tyrosine in the morning and tryptophan at night? This might help even things out. Trytophan normally helps with sleep (but then again you are not normal!). :-)


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