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Re: TRIP8b inhibitors? Truly novel antidepressants. » bleauberry

Posted by SLS on April 24, 2018, at 18:40:10

In reply to Re: TRIP8b inhibitors? Truly novel antidepressants. » SLS, posted by bleauberry on April 24, 2018, at 6:05:15

> > I take umbrage to your characterizations of scientists and the state of biological psychiatry.

> I take umbrage that modern science sentenced me to 20 years in a dungeon despite being an innocent prisoner. I take umbrage that it continues to happen to millions of people like me. The best they can do is throw SSRI's at them. I take umbrage at that.
>
> But it is the best we have so we have to work with it. It really doesn't advance the cause for you, me, or anyone else to be feeling umbrage about anything.

Then don't take umbrage at modern science! That's exactly the point!

I'm sorry that it took so long for you to get well. This is not the fault of science or scientists. They work hard. I'm sure people who have Parkinson's or Alzheimer's have a very understandable disappointment - and even anger - aimed at the slow pace of discovery. I think most recognize the value in the scientific method, though.

You say that Lyme Disease is the cause of 9 out of 10 cases of psychiatric symptoms. What exactly is the number of cases of Lyme Disease nationwide? Having that number would be instructive.

Would one be partially to blame for wasting years of their life were they to swear that the amalgam fillings in their teeth were to blame for their psychiatric symptoms? What about focusing on Candida yeast infections? Alternative treatments can be attractive if mainstream medicine has not yet provided a cure. Desperation is a strong motivator.

9 out of 10 psychiatric patients have Lyme Disease? At least now I can eliminate mercury and Candida from consideration. That will be a real time-saver.

You show little or no respect for science, scientists, or psychiatry. You judge everything by an extrapolation of your own experiences. This is not good science. Fortunately, I didn't rip the fillings out of my mouth 10 years ago.

People who are in agony and have not yet found a treatment that relieves them of their frustration and pain become desperate and are willing to try almost anything*. I do not think it is fair to promise a cure by choosing to reject modern medicine in the hope that they will attain wellness by promoting Lyme Disease treatment for 9 out of 10 people.

Personally, I believe that Lyme Disease can produce psychiatric symptoms - and some very severe ones. It's your numbers that don't work. I addressed this in a previous post. Using more liberal numbers, for every 100 people displaying psychiatric symptoms, only one will have Lyme Disease. The more concervative number was 1/338. This value depends upon the number of cases of Lyme Disease occuring nationwide. However, Lyme is not distributed equally throught the US. Many states have almost no cases at all. Yet, your 9/10 does not account for regional differences. If Lyme is not global, how can your one-size-fits-all assertion be global?

* I remember when Laetrile/Amygdalin for treating cancer was the cure du jour. People flocked to Mexico in the 1980s to get their hands on it. Unfortunately, consuming aprocot pits proved to be more snake-oil than cure. The scientific method worked to put this question to rest. The National Institutes of Health created in 1993 a department dedicated to the pursuit and testing of Complementary and Alternative Medicine along with Integrative Medicine. This program is grounded in the scientific method.


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