Posted by Amelia_in_StPaul on June 26, 2009, at 23:20:33
In reply to Re: med to prevent instability?, posted by morganpmiller on June 26, 2009, at 22:04:07
Do you have any documentation or research to back up your theories? Having corresponded with and been treated by experts in the field (Jenike, Claiborn), I have to say that never, ever is there anything in the literature about "protective mechanisms" or "Denial." OCD is an anxiety disorder. Period. There are higher rates of depression and other anxiety disorders (not always, though) with people who have OCD, but it's a far leap from facts (statistics of comorbidity) to theories about origin. Moreover, I know a lot of people with OCD, and many do not have comorbid conditions.
OCD is a diagnosis, and like any diagnosis, one may like it or not like it, but the issue is whether it is valuable.
And yes, it is valuable. Because you don't treat OCD the way you treat other diagnoses. The treatment pathway for OCD is very, very clear.
IMO it is very dangerous to talk about "hidden" anything for any condition. That implies that talk therapy is needed. Again, I have clear documentation (and I pointed to it--at ocfoundation.org) written by experts in the field about treatment. It is not talk therapy. It is not psychodynamic uncovering of hidden conflicts etc.
It's fun to theorize, but dangerous to tell people that they have some conflict inside that they don't know about. If I misunderstand your post, sorry.
I don't understand why my posts invite other people to steer my topics in a direction of psychodynamic frameworks. I would not feel comfortable taking what someone else said and completely reframing it according to my view of the world.
> You are definitely OCD..I just don't like the diagnosis of OCD because it rarely or never is something that not related to another issue. I've never met someone with OCD that does not have some other disorder/condition. I see OCD as more of a symptom of many other possible underlying condition. That said, therapy will help. So will medication.
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> You are obsessed for sure. Yet, that obsessiveness would not exist if it were not for something else that you are struggling with that needs to be addressed.
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> One of the main purposes for OCD is to distract us from that which really ails us. Then the OCD itself begins to hurts us as well. Same with Denial. We have this protective mechanisms but they usually end up hurting us even more than we already are.
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