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Re: Morphine for depression. Lorraine

Posted by shelliR on November 23, 2001, at 20:08:47

In reply to Re: Morphine for depression. shelliR, posted by Lorraine on November 19, 2001, at 9:12:48

Hi Lorraine,
>... his preference would be for me to try Naltroxone (which I am not wild about because there seems to be little research to support it) and then Methadone.

My experience with Naltroxone is that I took it one day and felt awful. It may be one of those one day drugs. If you try it you could potentially feel wonderful in one day also.

It's nice to know that he is thinking this way (and I have been bringing him in articles from time to time--just because that's what I do generally). He's retesting me today with a QEEG to see if he can detect why I am having these sublevel panic attacks and to see if he can figure out why my meds aren't working.

It seems to be that some of your meds were working, but they have too many side effects. Nardil was workng very well; it was the side effects.

His first testing said that amphetamine and mood stabilizer ought to work. I maintain fairly well on Adderall and Neurontin--of course it's only been 10 days since I stopped the Nardil, so I may not have "fallen off the cliff" into depression yet. I maintained well on Adderall and Neurontin during my Parnate washout as well.

Are there any mood stablizers that you haven't tried yet?

Aside from the panic attack stuff, I only seem to be lacking mood support. But I can think and act with just the Adderall and Neurontin. I have more mood lability and I can dip pretty low.
> > Is methodone one of the opiates that you are considering? I wish I had more time to read about it. Do you want me to send you the link to the info that I found?

That would be great, thanks.

> >
> > Let me know your next strategy. Either the adderall and neurotin are keeping you afloat, or you are the most patient person I know. Maybe bot

I've never been hospitalized. I hate hospitals (bad experiences when a child) plus I have never been suicidal and I think a lot about the impact of my illness on my children so I don't think I'll go that route (on the other hand, that's easy to say as I don't have suicidal ideations as a symptom--the thing that happens is just that all the lights go out in me and I hybernate, slumped in a chair).

Well yes, your depression does not sound as painful as many others have been, at least when you are stable on neurotin and adderall. The same person who would never ever to anything to hurt her children can get stuck in suicidal thinking. And sometime the thinking can get so distorted that she begins to believe that her children would be better off without her.

Sometimes the hospital can just provide an atmosphere where you can be absolutely you for a while, slumped in that chair. I think at times to really act like you feel, releases some of your energy back to you. I used to feel that with my business. If I was here I had to be totally "on" all the time, to go into the hospital gave me a break from responsibility and excuses. During my last short stays, I sort of had the opposite feelings. I didn't want to go to groups and talk about how I felt and how I wanted to change, or make collages about depression in art therapy. I just wanted to find a AD that worked.

Anyway, I am excited that the methodone seems positive (although not perfect) and I find myself looking forward to things that may be around the corner. It would be interesting after all of this searching we both ended up with methodone as the pain mood stabilizer after all these other trials.





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