Posted by JohnL on June 10, 2000, at 19:05:53
In reply to Re: Incomplete recovery gaining attention, posted by glenn on June 10, 2000, at 16:38:45
> john, i bought the dr jensen book and found it to ber excellent, much better than the other books i have bought, so thanks for the tip, i may at some point go to see this man if i cant sort myself out, im at about 50-60% better but to me thats not enough, just one question, do you know if serotonin excess can cause depression, its about the only thing dr jensen doesnt mention, i know it can cause the serotonin syndrome but this always appears to me to be being described as a temporary state soon put right, for me serotonin reuptake inhibitors make me much worse very quickly, in zolofts case after 3 hours!
> glad to hear the adrafinil is your key
> glennCool book, eh? I tell you what, I've spent a lot of money on psychiatric books, some with internationally acclaimed authors. But if I had to choose just one book of them all to keep, it would be this humble unsuspecting $30 book that stirs up so much controversy among those who haven't read it. I agree with you. Excellent book. It fills in all the gaps. I understand he's writing a followup book that goes into more detail.
Well, it almost fills in all the gaps...you're right, I didn't see any mention of too MUCh serotonin in the book. I know I got real depressed when I took just a tiny dose of Moclobemide. While he explains excess NE and excess dopamine, he didn't say the same about serotonin. But like my pdoc always says, anything's possible. He's seen it all.
I wonder, have you tried other serotonin enhancers? It could be that maybe your body just rejects the Zoloft molecule for some reason. As you know from the book, Jensen would like to see how you react to each of several meds in the same class before ruling out that class. If you react poorly to other serotonin meds, then I think the picture becomes clearer and it's definitely time to probe some other likely chemistries. Yeah?
By the way, I did have one phone consultation with Dr Jensen about half a year ago. He's really pleasant to speak with. Not only is his expertise obvious when he speaks or asks a question, but he's very humble, gentlemanly, and mild mannered. Excellent bedside manners. No ego trip with this guy. My one consultation with him was enough to get me pointed in the right direction. He layed out a very clear roadmap for me and my doctor to follow, with enough elbow room to make adjustments to it if we wanted to. And precise explanations of why this and why that. Just in case you ever feel like you're on a deadend road, I thought it might be worth knowing that a lot of people from around the country and the world consult with him by phone about their cases. I'm just one of them. It's not unusual at all for patients to consult with him just once or twice, because he has a knack for getting good results fast. Don't feel weird if you feel like calling his office.
I know it's kind of an awkward and unconventional way of getting help, and thus the obvious hesitation I felt when I was thinking of calling him. It's understandable. It's just so different. But it was actually a very good experience. Keep it in your back pocket just in case you might use it.
JohnL
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