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Posted by chicagokat on August 31, 2012, at 13:51:37
Hi all,
I'm pretty new here on pb, only posted a couple times on the med board, but now I have a really bad social problem and I wondered if I coult get some advice; I'd really appreciate it.
I'm suffering from sever, untreatable depression, every med has failed me and even ect didn't help (I think it made it worse, actually)
But here's my problem: I've been suffering so badly since all the meds failed me, for about a year and a half. I live with my wonderful husband who, for some reason, sticks by me even though it can't be easy. Thank God for him.
But, the rest of my family all live scattered across the country, and all my friends live far away since we've moved. I've become very isolated b/c of all this. so I've relied on my family for support too much....I call them when I'm feeling alone and suicidal. But they are gettinng SICK of it and really don't want to hear from me any more. so now I feel even more alone, and feel like I'm not a part of the family. Do you guys have any suggestions, cos i'm getting eesperate and suicidal here, and i'm so afraid and lonely. i'm gonna try to join a support group on sunday,, but i'm terrified of going b/c i've become agoraphobic with all this time alone. Please, I just need to know someone cares, it hurts so vad to feel like my family doesn't
sorry to babble on so, i'm just so desperate. i do trly home no one here feels as bad, and i hope everyone finds happiness.
thanks
Kat
Posted by Phillipa on August 31, 2012, at 23:48:53
In reply to What to do?, posted by chicagokat on August 31, 2012, at 13:51:37
I do know what you mean no family husband puts up with me. Kids grown and own families and don't want to hear from me either. Agoraphobic also but in reverse can't be alone and then need to be out of the house. I would love to join a support group. I'm ocd anxiety ruminating thoughts. So you are not alone. Also I'm on facebook which is totally different and diverts me. Phillipa
Posted by emmanuel98 on September 1, 2012, at 18:59:58
In reply to What to do?, posted by chicagokat on August 31, 2012, at 13:51:37
Maybe you could call your family and friends and just talk to them about other things than your mental health. This would alleviate your loneliness without making them feel overwhelmed. If you really need help, make an SOS call, but keep these limited to when you really need to share your unhappiness. This has worked for me with friends.
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 2, 2012, at 19:00:20
In reply to What to do?, posted by chicagokat on August 31, 2012, at 13:51:37
> Hi all,
>
> I'm pretty new here on pb, only posted a couple times on the med board, but now I have a really bad social problem and I wondered if I coult get some advice; I'd really appreciate it.
>
> I'm suffering from sever, untreatable depression, every med has failed me and even ect didn't help (I think it made it worse, actually)
>
> But here's my problem: I've been suffering so badly since all the meds failed me, for about a year and a half. I live with my wonderful husband who, for some reason, sticks by me even though it can't be easy. Thank God for him.
>
> But, the rest of my family all live scattered across the country, and all my friends live far away since we've moved. I've become very isolated b/c of all this. so I've relied on my family for support too much....I call them when I'm feeling alone and suicidal. But they are gettinng SICK of it and really don't want to hear from me any more. so now I feel even more alone, and feel like I'm not a part of the family. Do you guys have any suggestions, cos i'm getting eesperate and suicidal here, and i'm so afraid and lonely. i'm gonna try to join a support group on sunday,, but i'm terrified of going b/c i've become agoraphobic with all this time alone. Please, I just need to know someone cares, it hurts so vad to feel like my family doesn't
>
> sorry to babble on so, i'm just so desperate. i do trly home no one here feels as bad, and i hope everyone finds happiness.
>
> thanks
> Katkat,
You wrote,[...I am suffering..depression, every med has failed me..ect..made it worse...feeling alone and suicidal...have any suggestions..suicidal here...I'm just so desperate...].
You may already know that I see two roads to go on when one is in the condition that you are in. One is the road by {human achievement} and the other road is by {divine accomplishment}.
Now people here on the road of human acheivement post to take this drug or that drug or to combine drugs or up the dosage or down the dosage or find a therapy group. Now that road can lead to death. You see, many of the psychotropic drugs now carry a warning that the drug can increase suicidal and homocidal thinking, even antisiezure drugs. And now there has been many years to catalog the effects of these drugs and it is statisically evident that death can result from taking the drugs.
Now if the drugs can increase your thinking to kill yourself or others, would it be good thinking to take these drugs if you already have suicidal thinking?
Then there is addiction that when one is in withdrawal from a drug, they could have a mind-altered state induced in them to kill themselves and/or others , even commit mass-murder. So once you are put on the drug and you take it for a period of time, stopping the drug could cost you your life, by your own hand.
Now I am prohibited here from posting what IMHHO could save your life or prevent a life-ruining condition or addiction. This is because of these prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung. But you could go to the administrative board and see years of outstanding requests from me to Mr Hsiung and you could post in the threads there and then I could respond to you there. There I could open up the gate to healing and a new life, free from the shakles of addiction and depression.
Lou
Posted by brynb on September 3, 2012, at 21:46:29
In reply to What to do?, posted by chicagokat on August 31, 2012, at 13:51:37
Hi Kat,
First, I'm sorry you're struggling. Second, you're not alone =).
I totally understand, and I imagine most here do, too. I'm 38 and live alone in NYC, but I'm not really alone because my sister and her husband, parents and step parents all live in NYC too, in the same area, to boot. We spend a lot of time together (too much, in fact!). They've watched me struggle over the years, and though they say they understand, I know they don't. I also can't vent to my family anymore, either, as no one wants to hear about it. It's especially tough with my mom, because I try to talk to her and she just doesn't want to hear it. I was in a bad mood the other day, and my mom actually "asked" me (though it felt accusatory) if "I took my meds". Really? I'm not entitled to feel crabby sometimes without being viewed through the judgmental lens of mental illness?
Sorry, I went off on a tangent here, but I can so relate. I also don't discuss my depression with friends. You're lucky that your husband is understanding. I work with an amazing life coach/healer who helped me way more than therapists have. Have you tried any therapy or related approaches (even if you use someone as a sounding board so you don't have to involve your family)?
How is your med regimen going? Perhaps it is time to revisit your meds or tinker with the dosing.
Try to remain hopeful. Tall order when things are bad, I know, but it gives you "something" to look forward to.
Hang in there!
-b
Posted by chicagokat on September 4, 2012, at 18:31:26
In reply to Re: What to do? » chicagokat, posted by brynb on September 3, 2012, at 21:46:29
> Hi Kat,
>
> First, I'm sorry you're struggling. Second, you're not alone =).
>
> I totally understand, and I imagine most here do, too. I'm 38 and live alone in NYC, but I'm not really alone because my sister and her husband, parents and step parents all live in NYC too, in the same area, to boot. We spend a lot of time together (too much, in fact!). They've watched me struggle over the years, and though they say they understand, I know they don't. I also can't vent to my family anymore, either, as no one wants to hear about it. It's especially tough with my mom, because I try to talk to her and she just doesn't want to hear it. I was in a bad mood the other day, and my mom actually "asked" me (though it felt accusatory) if "I took my meds". Really? I'm not entitled to feel crabby sometimes without being viewed through the judgmental lens of mental illness?
>
> Sorry, I went off on a tangent here, but I can so relate. I also don't discuss my depression with friends. You're lucky that your husband is understanding. I work with an amazing life coach/healer who helped me way more than therapists have. Have you tried any therapy or related approaches (even if you use someone as a sounding board so you don't have to involve your family)?
>
> How is your med regimen going? Perhaps it is time to revisit your meds or tinker with the dosing.
>
> Try to remain hopeful. Tall order when things are bad, I know, but it gives you "something" to look forward to.
>
> Hang in there!
>
> -bHi Bryan, and thanks for posting. It really helps to know I'm not alone. I, too, have a problem with my Mom; I was feeling really low the other day and she just said put on some make up and some nice clothes and you'll feel better. Ha! If only doing such a little thing would help. She is one of many in my family who just don't get it.
On a happy note, I have an awesome therapist; she sees me 3x/ week, and only charges on co-pay. She'ss truly caring and is really helping me work through this. I also have a great pdoc, and I see him in a week; we'll see what he has to say.
Again, thanks so much, and here's to both of us feeling better soon!
All my best,
Kat
Posted by chicagokat on September 4, 2012, at 18:36:26
In reply to Re: What to do? » chicagokat, posted by Phillipa on August 31, 2012, at 23:48:53
> I do know what you mean no family husband puts up with me. Kids grown and own families and don't want to hear from me either. Agoraphobic also but in reverse can't be alone and then need to be out of the house. I would love to join a support group. I'm ocd anxiety ruminating thoughts. So you are not alone. Also I'm on facebook which is totally different and diverts me. Phillipa
Hi Phillipa...thanks for posting. It really helps to know I'm not alone in being alone with my suffering. It's sad, isn't it, that loved ones get tired of hearing about it, but we are stuck living with it all the time. I'm determined I'm goiing to join a support group so I can be around people who understand what I'm going though. I'm scared to death though, b/c of my agoraphobia. It's sad;; I'm like a shadow of myself, of who I used to be....I would never have had a problem going then. Anyways, the meeting is on Sunday afternoon, so wish me luck!
I truly hope you feel better soon. Take care.
All my best,
Kat
Posted by chicagokat on September 4, 2012, at 18:39:20
In reply to Re: What to do?, posted by emmanuel98 on September 1, 2012, at 18:59:58
Thanks Emmanuel, that is a really good idea :)
Everyone is so supportive here, Thanks so much, and I wish you the best.Kat
Posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 20:29:55
In reply to Re: What to do?, posted by chicagokat on September 4, 2012, at 18:36:26
Kat you are a stronger person than I. I used to be really strong now it's like I have a broken switch in my brain. In this case is my grown kids and husband that don't get it. Be well and would you post on the support group meeting? Phillipa
Posted by chicagokat on September 5, 2012, at 10:41:48
In reply to Re: What to do? » chicagokat, posted by Phillipa on September 4, 2012, at 20:29:55
> Kat you are a stronger person than I. I used to be really strong now it's like I have a broken switch in my brain. In this case is my grown kids and husband that don't get it. Be well and would you post on the support group meeting? Phillipa
Thanks Phillipa, but I don't feel very strong! I'm so terrified to go to this support meeting I may have my husband drive me. God bless him, he is wonderful - I'm very lucky in that. And sure, I will post on the group meeting and let you know how it goes. Take care of yourself Phillipa...You are too nice to be afflicted with your disease. :(
All my best,
Kat
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