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Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 8:08:50
In reply to correction-Lou's response-Jews as unsaved people, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 8:04:40
> > > > > I am too lazy to read all this.
> > > > >
> > > > > I can understand that you are fed up though.
> > > > >
> > > > > Friends,
> > > > You may not know all that Scott has posted here about me that could arouse ill-will toward me and create and develop hatred toward me in particular because I am a Jew. This is all in concert with Mr. Hsiung as not only does he allow it, he tries (and fails) to justify hatred posted here against me by Scott which could foster anti-Semitic hatred toward me that could culminate in me being a victim of anti-Semitic violence, as readers could think that what Mr. Hsiung is allowing to be seen as supportive will be good for his community as a whole, which could lead vulnerable readers here to think that it would also be good for their community where they reside since a psychiatrist says that he does what will be good for his community as a whole.
> > > > This turns my stomach because the use of {doing what will be good for the community as a whole} is used to justify slavery, segregation, infanticide, discrimination and genocide and all other crimes against humanity. Here I would like for you to examine what is in the following post to understand more about what Scott and Mr. Hsiung are doing here together by Scott posting about me here with accusations and defamation against me all with Mr. Hsiung's allowing of it which could create and develop anti-Semitic hatred toward me here, stigmatize me and cast me in the false light of being a pariah.
> > > > Lou
> > > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1080360.html
> > > >
> > > Friends,
> > > Now if you read the previous post, here Scott calls me a pariah. Why a pariah? The answer , my friends, could be brought out in the ancient hatreds toward the Jews in placing a badge of shame upon them for them to be seen as outcasts and to be ghettoized. Here is the post by Scott including his accusations against me that could bring ill-will against me here and create and develop anti-Semitic hate here. This is all condoned by Mr. Hsiung as he allows his own rules to be violated by Scott against me here, which contradicts his claim to that this forum is for support and to exemplify the Golden Rule and for him to be fair. If I could be called this horrible name as to be a pariah, which echoes old anti-Semitic rhetoric against the Jews, this could cause people to shun me here and ghettoize me as to have placed upon me the badge of shame to be a pariah by Scott approved by Mr. Hsiung as he states that what is not sanctioned by him is supportive and will be good in his thinking for his community as a whole.
> > > For a Jewish member to have placed upon him the badge of shame as being called a pariah, and Mr. Hsiung allowing it can create and develops anti-Semitic hate. You can take this hate and shove it, both of you.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150629/msgs/1080755.html
> > >
> > Friends,
> > The ancient hatred toward the Jews being allowed to be seen here as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung, could go to schools, universities, workplaces, and countries whose agenda is the destruction of Jews. And for those that want to persecute the Jews, to see that they have a psychiatrist allowing hatred toward the Jews to be promulgated on his forum to be civil, is what I am trying to stop here. The players and the playbook are nothing new, but old tactics used to arouse hatred toward the Jews as being allowed here by Mr. Hsiung as he allows third-party posts that insult Jews and Judaism itself. This is horrible for me here because Mr. Hsiung has prohibitions to me that prevent me from posting my own repudiation of ancient hatred toward the Jews being allowed by him to be seen as civil here. Here is another post by Scott that not only Mr. Hsiung allows to be seen as civil, but he tries to justify the insult to Judaism toward the Jews posted by Scott and fails flat. The justification that he tries to use is false and the defamation against the Jews in Scotts post is a lie against the Jews, which is what anti-Semitism is founded on. You see, I am prohibited by Mr. Hsiung to post the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me, but Scott is allowed to post the foundation of hatred toward the Jews here.
> > Here are two posts, one by Mr. Hsiung and one by Scott. Let us look a the one by Mr. Hsiung where he will expel me if was to post the foundation of Judaism as revealed to me. I am also prohibited by him to post the link to that. But another poster, 10derheart, is allowed to post the link so let us look at that post and click on the link in it that shows this:
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1076922.html
> > Now if you looked at that, and saw the historical use of expulsion against the Jew for if he posted the foundation of Judaism as revealed to him, you could understand more fully the next post by Scott as to how anti-Semitism is created and developed here by Mr. Hsiung and Scott being allowed to be the third-party poster posting antisemitism with impunity here.
> > Here Scott's post insults Judaism and me as a Jew here as being unsaved and that Christians are saved. This is a lie against the Jews which is what fules anti-Semitism and stokes the furnace of hate. This contradicts Mr. Hsiung's own rules to not post what could put down those of other faiths. But it is much worse than that. For Mr. Hsiung tries to justify Scott's post and fails, yet he leaves the post and its insult to Jews to be seen as civil and supportive , and worse, that by him doing so, it will be good or his community as a whole, so it is in his thinking. This makes Jews to be denied the equal protection of Mr. Hsiung's own rules here, which IMHO can challenge the health of this community for readers to see that Jews are discriminated upon here and could be demeaned to be shunned and further anti-Semitic hate could also be posted with impunity by Mr. Hsiung. This is where I can show malice
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1076922,html
> > correction:
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1076922.html
>
> correction-2
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
Posted by SLS on September 17, 2015, at 8:38:52
In reply to correct-2-Lou's response-Jews as unsaved people, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 8:08:50
Thank you for your posting links. I find them helpful.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055907.html
:-)
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 13:39:27
In reply to Other posts along threads... » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 17, 2015, at 8:38:52
> Thank you for your posting links. I find them helpful.
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055907.html
>
> :-)
>
>
> - ScottScott,
Your posted link here in no wise justifies you according to the rules here to tell me to convert to Christianity to be saved. In fact, your link here leads to that you and Mr. Hsiung could be thought to be in concert with each other to defame Judaism by him allowing you to not be compliant with his rules here which could lead to you being allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity by him.
You see, the rules are not to post anything that could put down someone's faith or for having their faith. And to try to convert one to another faith is outright prohibited here by Mr. Hsiung. Yet he allows you to continue to post hatred toward the Jews without him posting his tag line to be civil, which if he did so, you would have been stopped long ago by him using his enforcement policy in his TOS equally and without discrimination. By you both being involved in allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen here as supportive, readers could see a partnership between you and Mr. Hsiung whereas I am prohibited to even post my repudiation to you so that the anti-Semitic propaganda can burn as being supportive by both of you. By Mr. Hsiung allowing you to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity here, the fire of hate is still burning. For Mr. Hsiung to allow this fire of hate to escalate year after year in a mental health community, which is contradicting his own rules, IMHO is a terrible, is a terrible , is a terrible thing to do. You can both convert to Christianty and find out if you will be saved by doing that later. In the meantime, be advised that the God that the Jews give service and worship to has a plan for the Jews to be saved that could be unbeknownst to you. Remember, this Jesus said to judge not, for you will be judged.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20010718/msgs/1909.html
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 17:59:31
In reply to Lou's reply to Scott-Scott and Mr. Hsiung together, posted by Lou Pilder on September 16, 2015, at 11:02:57
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:00:30
In reply to Lou's response-create and develop hate, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 5:20:25
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:01:00
In reply to Lou's response-create and develop hate, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 5:20:25
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:01:22
In reply to Lou's response-echos of ancent hate, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 6:42:31
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:01:53
In reply to Lou's response-Jews as unsaved people, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 7:59:47
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:02:10
In reply to correction-Lou's response-Jews as unsaved people, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 8:04:40
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:02:28
In reply to correct-2-Lou's response-Jews as unsaved people, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 8:08:50
Posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:02:46
In reply to Lou's reply-judge not » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 13:39:27
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 6:20:35
In reply to Lou's reply-judge not » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 13:39:27
I wrote this:
"> Save yourself first. Jewish people convert to Christianity all the time."
On their own, these words to you are uncivil, despite my intention to have them be satire when taken in context. I guess this was not obvious. Satire itself can be uncivil. I therefore retract these words.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 6:21:58
In reply to Lou's reply-judge not » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 17, 2015, at 13:39:27
Are there any words that you would like to retract?
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 9:19:26
In reply to Retraction. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 6:20:35
> I wrote this:
>
> "> Save yourself first. Jewish people convert to Christianity all the time."
>
> On their own, these words to you are uncivil, despite my intention to have them be satire when taken in context. I guess this was not obvious. Satire itself can be uncivil. I therefore retract these words.
>
>
> - ScottI would like retractions to be posted as linking to the post where what you are retracting is originally posted.
Lou
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 9:57:45
In reply to Lou's reply-where it is originally posted » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 9:19:26
> I would like retractions to be posted as linking to the post where what you are retracting is originally posted.
I would like you to post one retraction along this thread as I have done. I would like you to retract your statements regarding my working in concert with Robert Hsiung, MD to promote drugs and antisemitism.
This is to be a negotiated series of retractions. I have begun the process of deescalation by posting the first retraction.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 10:07:08
In reply to More retractions? » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 6:21:58
> Are there any words that you would like to retract?
>
>
> - ScottThere are many retractions that if done, could stop Mr. Hsiung from allowing the hatred toward the Jews that could be fostered here by allowing the anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen here as supportive, and worse, that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for his community as a whole for hatred toward the Jews to be allowed to be seen as civil by him.
Here is post that I would like for you to examine so that we could go from there.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150407/msgs/1078654.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 10:12:29
In reply to Retractions. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 9:57:45
> > I would like retractions to be posted as linking to the post where what you are retracting is originally posted.
>
> I would like you to post one retraction along this thread as I have done. I would like you to retract your statements regarding my working in concert with Robert Hsiung, MD to promote drugs and antisemitism.
>
> This is to be a negotiated series of retractions. I have begun the process of deescalation by posting the first retraction.
>
>
> - Scottwhat is a link to that?
Lou
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 10:43:34
In reply to Lou'reply-link? » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 10:12:29
> > > I would like retractions to be posted as linking to the post where what you are retracting is originally posted.
> >
> > I would like you to post one retraction along this thread as I have done. I would like you to retract your statements regarding my working in concert with Robert Hsiung, MD to promote drugs and antisemitism.
> >
> > This is to be a negotiated series of retractions. I have begun the process of deescalation by posting the first retraction.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> what is a link to that?
> Louhttp://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150806/msgs/1081320.html
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082178.html
There are more.
I have complied with your request. However, it is not my intention to labor through negotiations without your posting a retraction to the links I have provided here.
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 14:58:32
In reply to Here are two. There are more. » Lou Pilder, posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 10:43:34
Scott,
Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.html
Posted by SLS on September 18, 2015, at 15:23:23
In reply to Lou's reply-a modification » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 14:58:32
> Scott,
> Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.htmlNo. Of course not.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/concert?s=t
No further negotiations will occur with you at this time.
I have accomplished my goal.
:-)
- Scott
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 15:28:09
In reply to Lou's reply-a modification » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 14:58:32
> Scott,
> Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.htmlScott,
I have read your 2end link and the part in question is:
[...advertising the drug through Scott..].
Now that is not what has to do with being in concert, for you would have to be proven in discovery that you collaborated via email or such to do that. I do not think Mr. Hsiung would go to that extreme for he just has to let posters promote drugs here without being in compliance with the FDA rules and do nothing. And he would not need you if that was what his goal was.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2015, at 6:27:34
In reply to Lou's reply-a modification » SLS, posted by Lou Pilder on September 18, 2015, at 14:58:32
> Scott,
> Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.htmlFriends,
I think that you will do well to consider what is plainly visible here. You see, I am trying not only to save lives here, but also to stop Mr. Hsiung and Scott, and there are others also, from posting what I understand to be hate-speech. This is in particular, but not limited to defamation directed against me and the Jews. This is because of the effects of this type of hate being allowed to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and thus the real issue is what could be done to the vulnerable people here who are subject to hatred directed at them, being the Jews and others here.
The harm that could come to the recipients of the hate being allowed to be seen as civil here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record is that those discriminated upon here by Mr. Hsiung allowing hatred to be posted against them with impunity damages the person's self-worth as they can not count on being treated justly. They can have feelings that they are deemed to be not worthy of equal citizenship. The stereotyping and stigmatization that comes from the group- hate propaganda being allowed here to be seen as supportive, and in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for his community as a whole, can shape a vulnerable person that is the victim of this hate here to feel that their social image and reputation are so devalued that they could kill themselves. I am trying so hard to not to let Scott and Mr. Hsiung and the others that post hatred and anti-Semitic propaganda against me here with impunity, to stay here in order to help others from being the recipients of this on-line hatred being perpetrated here as "support", which is not a new thing, but an old tactic that is socially dangerous that could lead to a person killing themselves by having feelings of inferiority induced into them by seeing that anti-Semitism is considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to the psychiatrist's thinking.
I would like for you to read all of the following and then I intend to expose the hidden hatred here being allowed to be seen as civil, providing the rule of 3 does not apply.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150407/msgs/1078958.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2015, at 9:25:21
In reply to Lou's reply-not worthy of equal citizenship, posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2015, at 6:27:34
> > Scott,
> > Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.html
>
> Friends,
> I think that you will do well to consider what is plainly visible here. You see, I am trying not only to save lives here, but also to stop Mr. Hsiung and Scott, and there are others also, from posting what I understand to be hate-speech. This is in particular, but not limited to defamation directed against me and the Jews. This is because of the effects of this type of hate being allowed to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and thus the real issue is what could be done to the vulnerable people here who are subject to hatred directed at them, being the Jews and others here.
> The harm that could come to the recipients of the hate being allowed to be seen as civil here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record is that those discriminated upon here by Mr. Hsiung allowing hatred to be posted against them with impunity damages the person's self-worth as they can not count on being treated justly. They can have feelings that they are deemed to be not worthy of equal citizenship. The stereotyping and stigmatization that comes from the group- hate propaganda being allowed here to be seen as supportive, and in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for his community as a whole, can shape a vulnerable person that is the victim of this hate here to feel that their social image and reputation are so devalued that they could kill themselves. I am trying so hard to not to let Scott and Mr. Hsiung and the others that post hatred and anti-Semitic propaganda against me here with impunity, to stay here in order to help others from being the recipients of this on-line hatred being perpetrated here as "support", which is not a new thing, but an old tactic that is socially dangerous that could lead to a person killing themselves by having feelings of inferiority induced into them by seeing that anti-Semitism is considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to the psychiatrist's thinking.
> I would like for you to read all of the following and then I intend to expose the hidden hatred here being allowed to be seen as civil, providing the rule of 3 does not apply.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150407/msgs/1078958.htmlFriends,
The harm that could be inflicted upon me here by me being denied equal protection of Mr. Hsiung's rules, is well-documented in the psychological literature that you can look up. And here, I am being called names, names that could mark the difference between life and death in vulnerable people, but I have a shield that protects me from hate being thrown at me by the posters here, but I do not have a shield from being hit from behind. And the allowing of me being called names here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, is what is causing the emotional pain that I am being subjected to here. It is that I am made to feel unworthy of receiving equal protection of Mr. Hsiung's rules here. And since he allows me to be subjected to defamatory names here, the defamation can continue to cause me emotional distress as not being worthy of equal protection of the rules here, which is discrimination being allowed by a psychiatrist saying that he justifies what he does because it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That IMHHHHO is hitting me from behind and I can not stop that.
Here is where I a hit from behind as Mr. Hsiung allows me to feel put down by Scott which could show a subset of readers that Scott and Mr .Hsiung are in concert with each other to inflict emotional distress upon me. They could have a rational basis to think that because Scott calls me a coward, which is against the rules, and Mr. Hsiung allows him to do so without his tag line to be civil which allows Scott to do it again.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1035879.html
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 20, 2015, at 7:14:51
In reply to There is no anti-semitism on PBabble (nm) » Lou Pilder, posted by herpills on September 17, 2015, at 18:02:46
h_p
Would you consider that the definition of what constitutes anti-Semitism is that if something is posted here that puts down Judaism and is allowed to be seen as civil and supportive and will in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for this community as a whole to be seen that way, that the statement that qualifies as putting down Judaism is then an anti-Semitic statement and that if it is allowed then there is anti-Semitism on PBabble?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on September 21, 2015, at 10:37:03
In reply to Lou's reply-denial of equal protection, posted by Lou Pilder on September 19, 2015, at 9:25:21
> > > Scott,
> > > Here is one way. Would that satisfy you?
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150901/msgs/1082654.html
> >
> > Friends,
> > I think that you will do well to consider what is plainly visible here. You see, I am trying not only to save lives here, but also to stop Mr. Hsiung and Scott, and there are others also, from posting what I understand to be hate-speech. This is in particular, but not limited to defamation directed against me and the Jews. This is because of the effects of this type of hate being allowed to be seen here as supportive by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, and thus the real issue is what could be done to the vulnerable people here who are subject to hatred directed at them, being the Jews and others here.
> > The harm that could come to the recipients of the hate being allowed to be seen as civil here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record is that those discriminated upon here by Mr. Hsiung allowing hatred to be posted against them with impunity damages the person's self-worth as they can not count on being treated justly. They can have feelings that they are deemed to be not worthy of equal citizenship. The stereotyping and stigmatization that comes from the group- hate propaganda being allowed here to be seen as supportive, and in Mr. Hsiung's thinking be good for his community as a whole, can shape a vulnerable person that is the victim of this hate here to feel that their social image and reputation are so devalued that they could kill themselves. I am trying so hard to not to let Scott and Mr. Hsiung and the others that post hatred and anti-Semitic propaganda against me here with impunity, to stay here in order to help others from being the recipients of this on-line hatred being perpetrated here as "support", which is not a new thing, but an old tactic that is socially dangerous that could lead to a person killing themselves by having feelings of inferiority induced into them by seeing that anti-Semitism is considered to be supportive and will be good for this community as a whole according to the psychiatrist's thinking.
> > I would like for you to read all of the following and then I intend to expose the hidden hatred here being allowed to be seen as civil, providing the rule of 3 does not apply.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150407/msgs/1078958.html
>
> Friends,
> The harm that could be inflicted upon me here by me being denied equal protection of Mr. Hsiung's rules, is well-documented in the psychological literature that you can look up. And here, I am being called names, names that could mark the difference between life and death in vulnerable people, but I have a shield that protects me from hate being thrown at me by the posters here, but I do not have a shield from being hit from behind. And the allowing of me being called names here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, is what is causing the emotional pain that I am being subjected to here. It is that I am made to feel unworthy of receiving equal protection of Mr. Hsiung's rules here. And since he allows me to be subjected to defamatory names here, the defamation can continue to cause me emotional distress as not being worthy of equal protection of the rules here, which is discrimination being allowed by a psychiatrist saying that he justifies what he does because it will in his thinking be good for his community as a whole. That IMHHHHO is hitting me from behind and I can not stop that.
> Here is where I a hit from behind as Mr. Hsiung allows me to feel put down by Scott which could show a subset of readers that Scott and Mr .Hsiung are in concert with each other to inflict emotional distress upon me. They could have a rational basis to think that because Scott calls me a coward, which is against the rules, and Mr. Hsiung allows him to do so without his tag line to be civil which allows Scott to do it again.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faith/20101230/msgs/1035879.html
>Friends,
The denial by Mr. Hsiung of me having the equal protection of his rules extends to him allowing many others here to post defamation against me here with impunity. Here is another member being allowed to post with impunity what is plainly visible to be against his rules.
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150806/msgs/1081470.html
To understand the depth of how this statement against my character could cause emotional distress to me is not because of what the poster says about me here with impunity, but the fact that Mr. Hsiung is allowing it which denies me equal protection of his rules which demeans me to think that I am unworthy of being an equal member in this community, which could make me into a pariah and stigmatize me when Mr. Hsiung could have prevented it. This subjects me to extreme emotional distress that if he was to do this to a more vulnerable member here, that IMHO could lead them to kill themselves.
I am trying to stop Mr. Hsiung from allowing third-party members to post contemptuous messages with impunity in order to insure that he does not allow it to be done to you. For if he succeeds in allowing hatred to be seen as supportive against me, he could do it to you also.
Lou
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