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Posted by Prefect on December 16, 2016, at 17:17:14
I know absolutely nothing about supplements. I've decided to start trying them for anxiety.
My anxiety isn't the agitated kind, it's weird, it's like a catatonic dear-in-headlights type where I freeze up and start crawling into myself without getting any palpitations. In fact once it culminates into a palpitative state I feel better (BTW any idea what the hell could cause this form of anxiety? Maybe Luvox isn't the best drug for this?)
I'm on Luvox (100mg/day) for anxiety and want to augment it with 5-HTP to see if it will make me feel better. But I've read a 5-HTP/SSRI combo can cause serotonin syndrome. So my question is, is there like a powdered form of this supplement so I can experiment with slow titration safely to see if there's benefits?
Or is this combo metabolized in some crazy way where effect/dosage relationship is not linear and can have exponential impacts? Has anyone experimented with this augmentation?
Cheers.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 16, 2016, at 21:16:18
In reply to Safe titration of 5-HTP while on SSRI?, posted by Prefect on December 16, 2016, at 17:17:14
i've take a low dose of 5-HTP with Prozac, didnt really have anything happen to me, but one time i took 3 50mg's .... the serotonin will build up in the synapse, i didn't actually have serotonin syndrome but it was defiantly noticeable to keep doses down below 100mg or 50
you can also try SAM-e but it's more stimulating, and expensive....but you can SAM-e on ebay
Posted by Prefect on December 16, 2016, at 21:56:56
In reply to Re: Safe titration of 5-HTP while on SSRI?, posted by rjlockhart37 on December 16, 2016, at 21:16:18
Did you get any benefit from the 5HTP augmentation?
I keep reading on the net L-Tryptophan is safer than 5HTP of you want to augment with an SSRI if concerned about serotonine syndrome,I've decided to try something new every week till I get some results.
2 weeks ago - started Mag L-threonine - I think it's had some calming effect but definitely not a curative step, I'm still taking it because it's a good idea overall
1 week ago - started 1000 mg Vitamin D - no effect whatsoever, but will keep taking it because I live in Canada
Next stop is some serotonine supplement, just need to figure out what.
These are big steps for me because I'm not the type to experiment with supplements and drugs but I'm getting desperate.
Posted by rjlockhart37 on December 16, 2016, at 23:05:56
In reply to Re: Safe titration of 5-HTP while on SSRI? » rjlockhart37, posted by Prefect on December 16, 2016, at 21:56:56
5-htp is the direct perscuser to serotonin, l-trypophan is not, but it eventually does turn into serotonin, it's gotta go through more checmical processes than 5-htp
there was a little mood noticement but it's not really anything major difference, maybe a pepped up mood but never go over 100mg with 5-HTP with an SSRI due to serotonin syndrome
Posted by chumbawumba on January 12, 2017, at 2:15:37
In reply to Safe titration of 5-HTP while on SSRI?, posted by Prefect on December 16, 2016, at 17:17:14
I've used 5-HTP with high dose Prozac and eventually I did get a bit of SS going on but it was mild. Somewhere in the vicinity of 100 mg of Prozac and 100-200 mg of 5-HTP I started to feel not so good.
Everyone is different though. I think they can be used safely together. You can buy bulk powder 5-HTP on ebay and milligram scales are cheap so you could weigh out 10 mg and start small.
Posted by joe f on September 23, 2017, at 18:20:22
In reply to Re: Safe titration of 5-HTP while on SSRI?, posted by chumbawumba on January 12, 2017, at 2:15:37
maybe your luvox dose needs to be increased.
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