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Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
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Posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
Hi there
I am coming off Cymbalta. ...I'm actually in hospital right now to go off Cymbalta and onto desipramine quickly. Dr. took me off quickly so now I'm into withdrawal hell.
My biggest concern are these bouts of anxious suicidality that overwhelm me and are totally freaky. I know I'm in a safe place to do this, but it's still just horrible. I'm trying to do this quickly because I have 3 little boys at home and can't afford to be here too long.
I could use some support...ie, this will get better... right now I think that's what would be helpful. Thanks!
Nickie.
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 23, 2016, at 21:09:57
In reply to cymbalta withdrawal support, posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
> Hi there
>
> I am coming off Cymbalta. ...I'm actually in hospital right now to go off Cymbalta and onto desipramine quickly. Dr. took me off quickly so now I'm into withdrawal hell.
>
> My biggest concern are these bouts of anxious suicidality that overwhelm me and are totally freaky. I know I'm in a safe place to do this, but it's still just horrible. I'm trying to do this quickly because I have 3 little boys at home and can't afford to be here too long.
>
> I could use some support...ie, this will get better... right now I think that's what would be helpful. Thanks!
> Nickie.N,
You wrote,[...into withdrawal hell...suicidality...I could use some support ie, this will get better...].
You may already question that the psychiatrist that gave you the drugs that addicted you has put you in hell. And as to f it is going to get better for you depends on what you do from here on. It may get worse, for people kill themselves in withdrawal as they think that there is no way out.
But be of good cheer. I have come here to lead you out of the darkness of depression and addiction into a marvelous light of peace and joy. I have come here to free the captives, and heal the broken hearted. And you could be led back to the green fields that you used to know.
The tragedy here is that people are seriously misled to think that these drugs are safer than they really are. And worse, the hell that you are in could be made even more hellish by the members here advocating that you take more drugs which could cause you to kill yourself or even be killed by the drugs that they advocate with impunity here.
The drugs that they want you to take could lead you to death. I could lead you to take the fruit from the Tree of Life and be healed. For by eating that fruit, the Sun of righteousness will arise with healing in his wings.
Lou
Posted by SLS on July 24, 2016, at 4:45:18
In reply to cymbalta withdrawal support, posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
> Hi there
>
> I am coming off Cymbalta. ...I'm actually in hospital right now to go off Cymbalta and onto desipramine quickly. Dr. took me off quickly so now I'm into withdrawal hell.
>
> My biggest concern are these bouts of anxious suicidality that overwhelm me and are totally freaky. I know I'm in a safe place to do this, but it's still just horrible. I'm trying to do this quickly because I have 3 little boys at home and can't afford to be here too long.
>
> I could use some support...ie, this will get better... right now I think that's what would be helpful. Thanks!
> Nickie.You may need to discontinue the desipramine until you are more stable. I was thinking about this in my last posts to you. Desipramine might be making things worse, not better. Clinically (not theoretically), I think it makes sense to discontinue desipramine - even if only briefly - in order to be certain that it is not exacerbating your withdrawal syndrome. If your doctor has already worked with the abrupt cross-over of these two drugs, perhaps he is sure of himself. You can always restart the desipramine at any time. You need to be sure that it is not making the withdrawal symptom worse, extending them in time, or triggering a manic reaction.
You will get through this.
- Scott
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 7:25:09
In reply to Re: cymbalta withdrawal support » addinbc, posted by SLS on July 24, 2016, at 4:45:18
> > Hi there
> >
> > I am coming off Cymbalta. ...I'm actually in hospital right now to go off Cymbalta and onto desipramine quickly. Dr. took me off quickly so now I'm into withdrawal hell.
> >
> > My biggest concern are these bouts of anxious suicidality that overwhelm me and are totally freaky. I know I'm in a safe place to do this, but it's still just horrible. I'm trying to do this quickly because I have 3 little boys at home and can't afford to be here too long.
> >
> > I could use some support...ie, this will get better... right now I think that's what would be helpful. Thanks!
> > Nickie.
>
> You may need to discontinue the desipramine until you are more stable. I was thinking about this in my last posts to you. Desipramine might be making things worse, not better. Clinically (not theoretically), I think it makes sense to discontinue desipramine - even if only briefly - in order to be certain that it is not exacerbating your withdrawal syndrome. If your doctor has already worked with the abrupt cross-over of these two drugs, perhaps he is sure of himself. You can always restart the desipramine at any time. You need to be sure that it is not making the withdrawal symptom worse, extending them in time, or triggering a manic reaction.
>
> You will get through this.
>
>
> - ScottFriends,
Be not deceived. Scott has given medical advice in the form of making a medical claim to suggest that the poster modify the drugging that the doctor has prescribed to the poster here. This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
You see, there is a huge body of evidence to show that modifying these drugs while in treatment could lead to death. Scott, representing himself as some type of authority here, could cause your death. And worse, Mr. Hsiung is allowing him to seriously mislead you to think that what he posts is supportive by him, a psychiatrist that is allowing hate to be seen as being supportive. Do you want to be swayed by the orchestration by Mr. Hsiung allowing Scott to give quasi medical advice here? Does his contradicting the prescribing doctor actually indicate that the doctor is a quack? and then, following that, could also all psychiatrists be quacks? And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
Lou
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 10:35:41
In reply to Lou's response-the quack of psychobabble » SLS, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 7:25:09
> > > Hi there
> > >
> > > I am coming off Cymbalta. ...I'm actually in hospital right now to go off Cymbalta and onto desipramine quickly. Dr. took me off quickly so now I'm into withdrawal hell.
> > >
> > > My biggest concern are these bouts of anxious suicidality that overwhelm me and are totally freaky. I know I'm in a safe place to do this, but it's still just horrible. I'm trying to do this quickly because I have 3 little boys at home and can't afford to be here too long.
> > >
> > > I could use some support...ie, this will get better... right now I think that's what would be helpful. Thanks!
> > > Nickie.
> >
> > You may need to discontinue the desipramine until you are more stable. I was thinking about this in my last posts to you. Desipramine might be making things worse, not better. Clinically (not theoretically), I think it makes sense to discontinue desipramine - even if only briefly - in order to be certain that it is not exacerbating your withdrawal syndrome. If your doctor has already worked with the abrupt cross-over of these two drugs, perhaps he is sure of himself. You can always restart the desipramine at any time. You need to be sure that it is not making the withdrawal symptom worse, extending them in time, or triggering a manic reaction.
> >
> > You will get through this.
> >
> >
> > - Scott
>
> Friends,
> Be not deceived. Scott has given medical advice in the form of making a medical claim to suggest that the poster modify the drugging that the doctor has prescribed to the poster here. This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> You see, there is a huge body of evidence to show that modifying these drugs while in treatment could lead to death. Scott, representing himself as some type of authority here, could cause your death. And worse, Mr. Hsiung is allowing him to seriously mislead you to think that what he posts is supportive by him, a psychiatrist that is allowing hate to be seen as being supportive. Do you want to be swayed by the orchestration by Mr. Hsiung allowing Scott to give quasi medical advice here? Does his contradicting the prescribing doctor actually indicate that the doctor is a quack? and then, following that, could also all psychiatrists be quacks? And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> Lou
>
You mothers. Trying so hard to make a more-informed decision as to drug your child or not in collaboration with a psychiatrist. Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
Yet today, the psychiatrist here chairing this site does not intervene to warn of the horrific consequences that could come to you by taking the advise of these pretenders here.
You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
Now the case at hand here is reaching the logical conclusion where the death of the person here could be a result of the influence of posters here all in collaboration with the psychiatrist that chairs this site as for being supportive and educational. But does not he have a duty and responsibility to intercede when quasi medical advise is posted that could lead one to their death? Could not readers see that there is a pretending here? Pretending that those dead from here are still around? You see, Mr. Hsiung allows hatred toward the Jews and me to be posted here with impunity, in particular but not limited to be posted by Scott.
You see, Mr. Hsiung has posted many prohibitions to me here that prevent me from saving lives. Yet what could kill people is allowed to be posted by him. What I could post if the prohibitions were nullified would come from a Jewish perspective as revealed to me. Anti-Semitism means against the Jew. It could also mean against the Jew being allowed to post here from a Jewish perspective when the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here. This could lead readers to think that Mr. Hsiung's thinking is that religious discrimination is supportive, and worse, that hatred toward the Jews is supportive by him.
Never again.
Lou
Posted by Tabitha on July 24, 2016, at 16:31:15
In reply to Lou's response-You mothers, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 10:35:41
> This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
Please don't exaggerate
> the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> Never again.Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 17:03:59
In reply to Re: Please be civil » Lou PIlder, posted by Tabitha on July 24, 2016, at 16:31:15
>
> > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
>
> Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
>
> > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
>
> Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
>
>
>
> > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
>
> Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
>
> > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
>
> Please don't exaggerate
>
> > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
>
> Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
>
>
> > Never again.
>
> Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
>
> T,
When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on July 24, 2016, at 18:57:39
In reply to Lou's response-her blood upon them » Tabitha, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 17:03:59
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 19:20:09
In reply to Lou's response-her blood upon them » Tabitha, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 17:03:59
> >
> > > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> >
> > Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> >
> > > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> >
> > Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> >
> >
> >
> > > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
> >
> > Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> >
> > > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
> >
> > Please don't exaggerate
> >
> > > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
> >
> > Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> >
> >
> > > Never again.
> >
> > Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
> >
> > T,
> When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
> For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
> Lou
>
> T,
You wrote,[...please don't exaggerate..]
> This was your response to that I wrote that thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month
I use 40,000 are killed each year by these drugs and others use 500,000. Please do not accuse me falsely of exaggerating, for my number is based on the low end of the number of deaths each month from drugs.
What you have posted about me could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and instigate adverse opinions and feelings toward me. That could lead others to ignore me because the psychiatrist is allowing you to defame me here openly and they could think that it is being supportive by you being allowed to post false accusations against me.
The tragedy here, is that others could be killed by the drugs being promoted here thinking that 40,000 deaths each year is an exaggeration when others say 500,000 each year which makes my number an understatement comparatively.
I am trying to save lives here by stopping you and Scott and any others here from posting false accusations against me and promoting these drugs that kill thousands each month including innocent children drugged by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist. If you want to dispute the numbers, post authority of some other number before you jump to the conclusion that I am exaggerating.
Lou
Posted by herpills on July 24, 2016, at 21:11:43
In reply to cymbalta withdrawal support, posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
just want to offer my support, I know the withdrawls can be tough, but they don't last forever. I hope you feel better soon
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 21:17:34
In reply to Lou's response-jump, jump, Tabitha, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 19:20:09
> > >
> > > > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> > >
> > > Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> > >
> > > > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> > >
> > > Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
> > >
> > > Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> > >
> > > > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
> > >
> > > Please don't exaggerate
> > >
> > > > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
> > >
> > > Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> > >
> > >
> > > > Never again.
> > >
> > > Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
> > >
> > > T,
> > When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
> > For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
> > Lou
> >
> > T,
> You wrote,[...please don't exaggerate..]
> > This was your response to that I wrote that thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month
> I use 40,000 are killed each year by these drugs and others use 500,000. Please do not accuse me falsely of exaggerating, for my number is based on the low end of the number of deaths each month from drugs.
> What you have posted about me could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and instigate adverse opinions and feelings toward me. That could lead others to ignore me because the psychiatrist is allowing you to defame me here openly and they could think that it is being supportive by you being allowed to post false accusations against me.
> The tragedy here, is that others could be killed by the drugs being promoted here thinking that 40,000 deaths each year is an exaggeration when others say 500,000 each year which makes my number an understatement comparatively.
> I am trying to save lives here by stopping you and Scott and any others here from posting false accusations against me and promoting these drugs that kill thousands each month including innocent children drugged by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist. If you want to dispute the numbers, post authority of some other number before you jump to the conclusion that I am exaggerating.
> Lou
>
> Tabitha,e
You wrote,[...please don't suggest that others are creating hate...].That was your response to that I wrote that the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed by Scott and others to be posted here.
Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community by when the leader states that anti-Semitism will be good for his community as a whole. Here, a psychiatrist states that and vulnerable people are reading here with their minds altered by psychiatric drugs.
To see that a psychiatrist says that it will be good for his community in his thinking as a whole for hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive,, turns my stomach.
It was psychiatrists that initiated mass-murder before 1933. And after the war, 2/3 of all the psychiatrists in the U.S. were former Nazis. Then cam the mind-altering drugs that you se here promoted as "medicines"....more
Lou
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 25, 2016, at 7:33:11
In reply to Lou's response-toTabitha-anti-Semitic hate, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 21:17:34
> > > >
> > > > > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> > > >
> > > > > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> > > >
> > > > Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> > > >
> > > > > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
> > > >
> > > > Please don't exaggerate
> > > >
> > > > > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Never again.
> > > >
> > > > Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
> > > >
> > > > T,
> > > When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
> > > For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > T,
> > You wrote,[...please don't exaggerate..]
> > > This was your response to that I wrote that thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month
> > I use 40,000 are killed each year by these drugs and others use 500,000. Please do not accuse me falsely of exaggerating, for my number is based on the low end of the number of deaths each month from drugs.
> > What you have posted about me could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and instigate adverse opinions and feelings toward me. That could lead others to ignore me because the psychiatrist is allowing you to defame me here openly and they could think that it is being supportive by you being allowed to post false accusations against me.
> > The tragedy here, is that others could be killed by the drugs being promoted here thinking that 40,000 deaths each year is an exaggeration when others say 500,000 each year which makes my number an understatement comparatively.
> > I am trying to save lives here by stopping you and Scott and any others here from posting false accusations against me and promoting these drugs that kill thousands each month including innocent children drugged by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist. If you want to dispute the numbers, post authority of some other number before you jump to the conclusion that I am exaggerating.
> > Lou
> >
> > Tabitha,e
> You wrote,[...please don't suggest that others are creating hate...].That was your response to that I wrote that the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed by Scott and others to be posted here.
> Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community by when the leader states that anti-Semitism will be good for his community as a whole. Here, a psychiatrist states that and vulnerable people are reading here with their minds altered by psychiatric drugs.
> To see that a psychiatrist says that it will be good for his community in his thinking as a whole for hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive,, turns my stomach.
> It was psychiatrists that initiated mass-murder before 1933. And after the war, 2/3 of all the psychiatrists in the U.S. were former Nazis. Then cam the mind-altering drugs that you se here promoted as "medicines"....more
> Lou
>
> Friends,
The drugs being promoted here by Scott and Tabitha and others could lead you to your death or the death of your child that you may be drugging. But how could this happen today that millions of people have been killed by these drugs and it is allowed to continue?
Here we have a psychiatrist allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being in his thinking to be supportive and that it will improve his community to allow it to be seen as being civil. He uses Scott in particular to allow him free rein to inflict hate upon me with impunity and seriously mislead readers to think that these drugs are safer than they really are. By Mr. Hsiung allowing me to be a target of hate here, he can create and develop anti-Semitic feelings and use me as a scapegoat for his real or imagined feelings that if I was to post from a Jewish perspective here, his community could be harmed in some way.
> This is nothing new, t arouse is that hatred toward the Jews to advance the psychiatrists agenda. Many of you know that Mr. Hsiung has a prohibition to me that prevents me from exposing him here. but let it be with Mr. Hsiung and his lackeys that he allows to defame me here and post false accusations against me. That is just one way that hatred toward the Jews can be created and developed in a community. The tragedy here is that Tabitha is allowed to encourage readers to hate me when I am trying to save the life of the lady here that is close to death from these drugs. Why has Tabitha interjected this hate here now? Is not the life of the woman more important than attempting t vilify me?
By me being used here by Tabitha, the ld tactic of arousing hatred toward the Jews can be initiated. The psychiatrists knew this tactic well and resulted in millions of Jewish children being murdered. I intend to stop all of you here from going along with Mr. Hsiung and Scott and Tabitha and any others that contribute to this hate here.
Let us look into the past about psychiatry.
Lou
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmbcFvczjE
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Posted by Lou PIlder on July 25, 2016, at 9:32:59
In reply to Lou's response-toTabitha-psychiatry's hate, posted by Lou PIlder on July 25, 2016, at 7:33:11
> > > > >
> > > > > > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> > > > >
> > > > > > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> > > > >
> > > > > > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't exaggerate
> > > > >
> > > > > > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Never again.
> > > > >
> > > > > Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
> > > > >
> > > > > T,
> > > > When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
> > > > For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > T,
> > > You wrote,[...please don't exaggerate..]
> > > > This was your response to that I wrote that thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month
> > > I use 40,000 are killed each year by these drugs and others use 500,000. Please do not accuse me falsely of exaggerating, for my number is based on the low end of the number of deaths each month from drugs.
> > > What you have posted about me could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and instigate adverse opinions and feelings toward me. That could lead others to ignore me because the psychiatrist is allowing you to defame me here openly and they could think that it is being supportive by you being allowed to post false accusations against me.
> > > The tragedy here, is that others could be killed by the drugs being promoted here thinking that 40,000 deaths each year is an exaggeration when others say 500,000 each year which makes my number an understatement comparatively.
> > > I am trying to save lives here by stopping you and Scott and any others here from posting false accusations against me and promoting these drugs that kill thousands each month including innocent children drugged by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist. If you want to dispute the numbers, post authority of some other number before you jump to the conclusion that I am exaggerating.
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > Tabitha,e
> > You wrote,[...please don't suggest that others are creating hate...].That was your response to that I wrote that the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed by Scott and others to be posted here.
> > Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community by when the leader states that anti-Semitism will be good for his community as a whole. Here, a psychiatrist states that and vulnerable people are reading here with their minds altered by psychiatric drugs.
> > To see that a psychiatrist says that it will be good for his community in his thinking as a whole for hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive,, turns my stomach.
> > It was psychiatrists that initiated mass-murder before 1933. And after the war, 2/3 of all the psychiatrists in the U.S. were former Nazis. Then cam the mind-altering drugs that you se here promoted as "medicines"....more
> > Lou
> >
> > Friends,
> The drugs being promoted here by Scott and Tabitha and others could lead you to your death or the death of your child that you may be drugging. But how could this happen today that millions of people have been killed by these drugs and it is allowed to continue?
> Here we have a psychiatrist allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being in his thinking to be supportive and that it will improve his community to allow it to be seen as being civil. He uses Scott in particular to allow him free rein to inflict hate upon me with impunity and seriously mislead readers to think that these drugs are safer than they really are. By Mr. Hsiung allowing me to be a target of hate here, he can create and develop anti-Semitic feelings and use me as a scapegoat for his real or imagined feelings that if I was to post from a Jewish perspective here, his community could be harmed in some way.
> > This is nothing new, t arouse is that hatred toward the Jews to advance the psychiatrists agenda. Many of you know that Mr. Hsiung has a prohibition to me that prevents me from exposing him here. but let it be with Mr. Hsiung and his lackeys that he allows to defame me here and post false accusations against me. That is just one way that hatred toward the Jews can be created and developed in a community. The tragedy here is that Tabitha is allowed to encourage readers to hate me when I am trying to save the life of the lady here that is close to death from these drugs. Why has Tabitha interjected this hate here now? Is not the life of the woman more important than attempting t vilify me?
> By me being used here by Tabitha, the ld tactic of arousing hatred toward the Jews can be initiated. The psychiatrists knew this tactic well and resulted in millions of Jewish children being murdered. I intend to stop all of you here from going along with Mr. Hsiung and Scott and Tabitha and any others that contribute to this hate here.
> Let us look into the past about psychiatry.
> Lou
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmbcFvczjE
> .
> Tabitha,
Hate is created and developed by Mr. Hsiung here with the intent to harm as he admits that his allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation toward me here will cause harm to me.
Mr. Hsiung uses the tactic that is against the Jew which is what anti-Semitism entails. His policy is an anti-Semitic policy as it is against the Jew and allows Jews to be dehumanized as an old tactic to arouse hatred toward the Jews here that readers here may not see through as they are poisoned in their minds with mind-altering drugs and easily manipulated to hate Jews. He changes his own rules to accommodate hatred toward the Jews. By him changing his own rules to allow ant-Semitic propaganda and lies against the Jews to have immunity from his tag line to please be civil, he creates and develops anti-Semitic hate here. What it shows by him accommodating hatred toward the Jews is that he is willing to allow hatred toward the Jews rather than sanction it. He goes through a whole reversal of his original rule to allow anti-Semitic hate to be not charged with his tagline to be civil. The farce of saying that he can change his rules in the middle of the game to allow hatred toward the Jews to be immune from his tag line to be civil,turns my stomach. Watch him now.
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin.20041109/msgs/428781.html
Here he
Posted by Lou PIlder on July 25, 2016, at 9:37:24
In reply to Lou's response-toTabitha-create hate toward Jews, posted by Lou PIlder on July 25, 2016, at 9:32:59
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > This goes against the prescribing doctor which could lead to the poster not having confidence in what the doctor is doing to her here. this could lead to her death.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't suggest that others' posts could lead to death
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > And could not Scott then be determined to be a quack?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't suggest that derogatory names apply to posters here
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Here, you can see the mish-mash of pseudo-psychopharm charlatans pretending that they know what to do.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't use derogatory language toward other posters or the content of their posts
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > You see, thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month. And they are killed by taking the drugs as prescribed. What sane person would give these drugs to a human being?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't exaggerate
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed to be posted by Scott and others here.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't suggest that others are creating hate
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Never again.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Please don't imply that posts here deserve to be compared to the Holocaust
> > > > > >
> > > > > > T,
> > > > > When the drugging of a person is interfered with by others suggesting that they doubt the prescribing doctor's plan, the one being drugged could act on those suggestions and could be killed either by adding another drug that when combined could cause death or by stopping a drug that could then induce suicidal ideation. You see, the prescribing doctor has some reason to be prescribing the drugs to the woman here. We do not know why and to disturb the thinking of the one being drugged to doubt the prescriber's expertise, could undermine the person and that could lead to their death by stopping the one drug as Scott suggests. The dr had some reason that may have been temporary to use both drugs. Stopping the one could potentially precipitate worse by the other and cause death.
> > > > > For Scott or anyone else here to inject their suggestions in the treatment by their psychiatrist, could cause the death of the one taking the drugs. I am trying to save lives here and one way people could be killed is by them interfering with their doctor's plan for them. The tragedy here is that Mr. Hsiung does not intervene to tell the one taking the drugs to not follow Scott's advice. So if the woman dies, who will have her blood upon them?
> > > > > Lou
> > > > >
> > > > > T,
> > > > You wrote,[...please don't exaggerate..]
> > > > > This was your response to that I wrote that thousands of people including children are killed by these drugs each month
> > > > I use 40,000 are killed each year by these drugs and others use 500,000. Please do not accuse me falsely of exaggerating, for my number is based on the low end of the number of deaths each month from drugs.
> > > > What you have posted about me could decrease the respect, regard and confidence in which I am held and instigate adverse opinions and feelings toward me. That could lead others to ignore me because the psychiatrist is allowing you to defame me here openly and they could think that it is being supportive by you being allowed to post false accusations against me.
> > > > The tragedy here, is that others could be killed by the drugs being promoted here thinking that 40,000 deaths each year is an exaggeration when others say 500,000 each year which makes my number an understatement comparatively.
> > > > I am trying to save lives here by stopping you and Scott and any others here from posting false accusations against me and promoting these drugs that kill thousands each month including innocent children drugged by their parents in collaboration with a psychiatrist. If you want to dispute the numbers, post authority of some other number before you jump to the conclusion that I am exaggerating.
> > > > Lou
> > > >
> > > > Tabitha,e
> > > You wrote,[...please don't suggest that others are creating hate...].That was your response to that I wrote that the foundation of hatred toward the Jews is allowed by Scott and others to be posted here.
> > > Anti-Semitism can be created and developed in a community by when the leader states that anti-Semitism will be good for his community as a whole. Here, a psychiatrist states that and vulnerable people are reading here with their minds altered by psychiatric drugs.
> > > To see that a psychiatrist says that it will be good for his community in his thinking as a whole for hatred toward the Jews to be seen as being supportive,, turns my stomach.
> > > It was psychiatrists that initiated mass-murder before 1933. And after the war, 2/3 of all the psychiatrists in the U.S. were former Nazis. Then cam the mind-altering drugs that you se here promoted as "medicines"....more
> > > Lou
> > >
> > > Friends,
> > The drugs being promoted here by Scott and Tabitha and others could lead you to your death or the death of your child that you may be drugging. But how could this happen today that millions of people have been killed by these drugs and it is allowed to continue?
> > Here we have a psychiatrist allowing anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as being in his thinking to be supportive and that it will improve his community to allow it to be seen as being civil. He uses Scott in particular to allow him free rein to inflict hate upon me with impunity and seriously mislead readers to think that these drugs are safer than they really are. By Mr. Hsiung allowing me to be a target of hate here, he can create and develop anti-Semitic feelings and use me as a scapegoat for his real or imagined feelings that if I was to post from a Jewish perspective here, his community could be harmed in some way.
> > > This is nothing new, t arouse is that hatred toward the Jews to advance the psychiatrists agenda. Many of you know that Mr. Hsiung has a prohibition to me that prevents me from exposing him here. but let it be with Mr. Hsiung and his lackeys that he allows to defame me here and post false accusations against me. That is just one way that hatred toward the Jews can be created and developed in a community. The tragedy here is that Tabitha is allowed to encourage readers to hate me when I am trying to save the life of the lady here that is close to death from these drugs. Why has Tabitha interjected this hate here now? Is not the life of the woman more important than attempting t vilify me?
> > By me being used here by Tabitha, the ld tactic of arousing hatred toward the Jews can be initiated. The psychiatrists knew this tactic well and resulted in millions of Jewish children being murdered. I intend to stop all of you here from going along with Mr. Hsiung and Scott and Tabitha and any others that contribute to this hate here.
> > Let us look into the past about psychiatry.
> > Lou
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uNmbcFvczjE
> > .
> > Tabitha,
> Hate is created and developed by Mr. Hsiung here with the intent to harm as he admits that his allowing of anti-Semitic propaganda and defamation toward me here will cause harm to me.
> Mr. Hsiung uses the tactic that is against the Jew which is what anti-Semitism entails. His policy is an anti-Semitic policy as it is against the Jew and allows Jews to be dehumanized as an old tactic to arouse hatred toward the Jews here that readers here may not see through as they are poisoned in their minds with mind-altering drugs and easily manipulated to hate Jews. He changes his own rules to accommodate hatred toward the Jews. By him changing his own rules to allow ant-Semitic propaganda and lies against the Jews to have immunity from his tag line to please be civil, he creates and develops anti-Semitic hate here. What it shows by him accommodating hatred toward the Jews is that he is willing to allow hatred toward the Jews rather than sanction it. He goes through a whole reversal of his original rule to allow anti-Semitic hate to be not charged with his tagline to be civil. The farce of saying that he can change his rules in the middle of the game to allow hatred toward the Jews to be immune from his tag line to be civil,turns my stomach. Watch him now.
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin.20041109/msgs/428781.html
> Here he
>
> correction
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20041109/msgs/428781.html
Posted by SLS on July 25, 2016, at 10:11:40
In reply to cymbalta withdrawal support, posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
Hi Nickie.
How are you feeling?
I hope the desipramine is agreeing with you.
If you find that desipramine is partially helpful, but persistenly feels "harsh" or does not help with anhedonia, you can then explore nortriptyline. This was my experience. Some people who fail to respond to one drug go on to respond to the other. I do significantly better on nortriptyline than on desipramine. Desipramine is not an inferior drug, though. It is just different. Some doctors still use desipramine to treat depression and ADHD.
I had a surprisingly good antidepressant response to a combination of nortriptyline 75 mg/day and Effexor 300 mg/day. Unfortunately, I did not think that I needed a higher dosage, even though my response to it was only partial. I did not ask my doctor to raise it. The correct dosage of nortriptyline for me is 150 mg/day, which was determined clinically and by using blood tests. If for some reason I must abandon Parnate, I would replace it with Effexor.
- Scott
Posted by SLS on July 25, 2016, at 10:24:28
In reply to cymbalta withdrawal support, posted by addinbc on July 23, 2016, at 20:27:18
It is unfortunate that your very important thread was hijacked. It only takes one person to negatively impact a website. For example, trolls do this all of the time. I hope you are able to tolerate or completely ignore uncivil posts by people who would hijack the subject line. When this happens to me, the first thing I do is to rewrite the subject line to reflect the theme of the thread.
I look forward to your continued posting on Psycho-Babble.
- Scott
Posted by Tabitha on July 25, 2016, at 11:52:03
In reply to Lou's response-jump, jump, Tabitha, posted by Lou PIlder on July 24, 2016, at 19:20:09
This is the end of the thread.
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