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Posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 7:55:19
I have been poisoned by an acne related drug that is like an overdose of Vitamin A. It has affected my mind and my body. My hair has fallen out. My eyes are sore. My brain is cloudy, my memory is poor, my life isnt the same and the depression is unbearable at times. Is there any way to purge or rid my body of the toxic levels or residue of this?
Posted by Declan on August 19, 2005, at 17:25:22
In reply to Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 7:55:19
Hi
How long since you stopped using it?
I read about these fishermen who eat the liver of a halibut. Their skin peeled off and they were really sick. Your liver enzymes OK?
Declan
Posted by Phillipa on August 19, 2005, at 18:18:41
In reply to Re: Vitamintosis of Vitamin A » poisoned femme, posted by Declan on August 19, 2005, at 17:25:22
Was it Accutane. They just issued a warning that all women must register if they take it and they are of the age to get pregnant. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by Ilene on August 19, 2005, at 19:55:18
In reply to Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 7:55:19
> I have been poisoned by an acne related drug that is like an overdose of Vitamin A. It has affected my mind and my body. My hair has fallen out. My eyes are sore. My brain is cloudy, my memory is poor, my life isnt the same and the depression is unbearable at times. Is there any way to purge or rid my body of the toxic levels or residue of this?
A study in 1997 suggested that vitamin E might help counteract the side effects of Accutane, but a more recent study found no difference among women who took it and those who didn't. So it's kind of a toss-up. At least vitamin E isn't as toxic as vitamin A.
I.
Posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 20:44:49
In reply to Re: Vitamintosis of Vitamin A » poisoned femme, posted by Declan on August 19, 2005, at 17:25:22
> Hi
> How long since you stopped using it?
> I read about these fishermen who eat the liver of a halibut. Their skin peeled off and they were really sick. Your liver enzymes OK?
> DeclanHi Declan
I took it about 6 years ago and not for long. My liver did show up badly at one stage but my whole body is falling apart so i just add it to the list.
Posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 21:46:31
In reply to Re: Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by Phillipa on August 19, 2005, at 18:18:41
> Was it Accutane. They just issued a warning that all women must register if they take it and they are of the age to get pregnant. Fondly, Phillipa
Hi Phillipa
yes it was and i was in my 30's at the time and didnt realise just how bad the side effects would be..
Posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 21:51:35
In reply to Re: Vitamintosis of Vitamin A » poisoned femme, posted by Ilene on August 19, 2005, at 19:55:18
> > I have been poisoned by an acne related drug that is like an overdose of Vitamin A. It has affected my mind and my body. My hair has fallen out. My eyes are sore. My brain is cloudy, my memory is poor, my life isnt the same and the depression is unbearable at times. Is there any way to purge or rid my body of the toxic levels or residue of this?
>
> A study in 1997 suggested that vitamin E might help counteract the side effects of Accutane, but a more recent study found no difference among women who took it and those who didn't. So it's kind of a toss-up. At least vitamin E isn't as toxic as vitamin A.
>
> I.Hi I
ive flax oil, omega 3, so many other alternatives and nothing has helped so far. There has to be something to purge it from the body or help filter it through...so many people are affected and mentally disabled from it..the cure is worse than the illness and it doesnt even last anyway!
Posted by john berk on August 20, 2005, at 16:12:37
In reply to Re: Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 21:51:35
Hi,
i had a friend who had vitamintosis and lost all of his hair and was bedridden for 4-5 month's.
i don't know how he rid his body of toxins, but his doctor told him to stop any multi-vitamins, and onlt take B5, [panothetic acid i believe, not sure of exact spelling] and his energy levels slowly incresased and most of his hair grew back.
he wasn't on accutane, but was actually ingesting well over 100,000 mgs.of vitamin A daily sometimes, [for whatever reason?] and the B5 helped. ask your doctor, i hope this is of some help...john
Posted by yxibow on August 21, 2005, at 0:08:21
In reply to Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 7:55:19
> I have been poisoned by an acne related drug that is like an overdose of Vitamin A. It has affected my mind and my body. My hair has fallen out. My eyes are sore. My brain is cloudy, my memory is poor, my life isnt the same and the depression is unbearable at times. Is there any way to purge or rid my body of the toxic levels or residue of this?
Vitamin A is a fat soluble vitamin meaning that only time will really eliminate it from your body. There are other complications that can occur such as hypercalcemia (excess calcium).
http://www.nlm.nih.gov/medlineplus/ency/article/000350.htm
describes some of it
at http://www.emedicine.com/med/topic2382.htm
I think you have to register there.. it has a better description. Generally the outcome is good but the ongoing side effects are admittedly unpleasant from what I can gather.
I'm sorry this happened to you.
cheers.
Posted by adamCanada on August 23, 2005, at 12:14:24
In reply to Vitamintosis of Vitamin A, posted by poisoned femme on August 19, 2005, at 7:55:19
> I have been poisoned by an acne related drug that is like an overdose of Vitamin A. It has affected my mind and my body. My hair has fallen out. My eyes are sore. My brain is cloudy, my memory is poor, my life isnt the same and the depression is unbearable at times. Is there any way to purge or rid my body of the toxic levels or residue of this?
Same thing happened to me! From Accutane.
Except for me my skin became more yellow. My eye sight became dark, colors are pale, night vision decreased. Burning head pains. And severe depression mind torture. My life will never be the same.
this was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. I have been on 15 or so different medications. Most anti depressants dont help and most MADE IT WORSE. Because this isnt typical depression mental illness that ppl get... this is caused by vitamin overdose damage. Our brains are severely messed up and damaged.
Paxil has been one of the few to help. But it only lets me stay in a livable state. I dont feel the severe mental pains that would torture me every minute. Instead I get some head burning which isn't nearly as bad.
some meds i have tried are...
prozac, paxil, celexa, zoloft, zyprexa, reboxetine, adrafinil, vivarint, lithium, wellbutrin (i think), ativan, dexedrine, buspar, and others that I cannot recall.Vivarint was one of the few meds to work for me. But thanks to the worthless corporations here in America they got it taken off the market for what was probably comptetition reasons. The best meds are always taken off the market here. The best european meds that is. SO I CANT GET IT ANYMORE.
I am at a state where if i stop taking paxil I will be unable to function and will want to die. So the only meds i can try are the ones that dont require me stopping paxil.
Posted by poisoned femme on August 23, 2005, at 18:29:14
In reply to Accutane Ruined my life » poisoned femme, posted by adamCanada on August 23, 2005, at 12:14:24
Adam
Yes mine was Accutane as well...and i took it for stupid petty reasons because a medical person pushed it on me and i had a few enlarged pores thats it. It has ruined my life on every level i am not that same. I am so sorry to read what it has done to you and people cant understand until they live through it..its not normal depression...its not just some side effects that go away after a short time. They are with you for life and your body degenerates and so does your mind. Its like you shrivel up from the inside out. You NEVER feel normal and you NEVER feel healthy and you NEVER know what is going to happen next. To those murderers at ROCHE...you have KARMA coming to you for allowing this and poisoning young people for filthy money..i pray you evil people will pay one day and maybe i wont be around but if there is any karmic justice for the hundreds of thousands of people you have made ill with your toxic chemical then you should be accountable.
They have enough resources and money to fix this or at least help it but they wont. Evil evil evil..and the young people whose lives were ahead of them sit depressed and feeling old for what...a drug that didnt work properly anyway..
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> Same thing happened to me! From Accutane.
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> Except for me my skin became more yellow. My eye sight became dark, colors are pale, night vision decreased. Burning head pains. And severe depression mind torture. My life will never be the same.
>
> this was maybe 3 or 4 years ago. I have been on 15 or so different medications. Most anti depressants dont help and most MADE IT WORSE. Because this isnt typical depression mental illness that ppl get... this is caused by vitamin overdose damage. Our brains are severely messed up and damaged.
>
> Paxil has been one of the few to help. But it only lets me stay in a livable state. I dont feel the severe mental pains that would torture me every minute. Instead I get some head burning which isn't nearly as bad.
>
> some meds i have tried are...
> prozac, paxil, celexa, zoloft, zyprexa, reboxetine, adrafinil, vivarint, lithium, wellbutrin (i think), ativan, dexedrine, buspar, and others that I cannot recall.
>
> Vivarint was one of the few meds to work for me. But thanks to the worthless corporations here in America they got it taken off the market for what was probably comptetition reasons. The best meds are always taken off the market here. The best european meds that is. SO I CANT GET IT ANYMORE.
>
> I am at a state where if i stop taking paxil I will be unable to function and will want to die. So the only meds i can try are the ones that dont require me stopping paxil.
>
Posted by stresser on August 23, 2005, at 21:58:42
In reply to Re: Accutane Ruined my life » adamCanada, posted by poisoned femme on August 23, 2005, at 18:29:14
Did these side effects happen to you at the same time you were taking the accutane, or years after you stopped taking it? -L
Posted by poisoned femme on August 23, 2005, at 22:58:23
In reply to Re: Accutane Ruined my life, posted by stresser on August 23, 2005, at 21:58:42
> Did these side effects happen to you at the same time you were taking the accutane, or years after you stopped taking it? -L
These happened about a year later, the bad ones started. But a couple of months after i took it i was having sex and i realised all of a sudden that when i was climaxing it was so dull as it was happening it actually gave me a fright. This was the begining of the end of my body being the same on any level. It was like my CNS was out of snyc but for a while those couple of enlarged pores closed up! Can you imagine having a screwed up life from something so trivial and a drug so potent it should only be given to people so affected by acne that it has caused sociological and psychological problems so it might be worht the risk of taking it. Personally you end up feeling like you want to kill yourself anyway so why bother.
Posted by ed_uk on August 24, 2005, at 14:11:49
In reply to Re: Accutane Ruined my life, posted by stresser on August 23, 2005, at 21:58:42
Hi L,
I took Accutane 70mg for moderate/severe acne a few years ago. I was on it for about four months. It worked extremely well, I've never had acne since. I tried everything else but only Accutane worked.
I had quite a lot of side effects....... dry lips/peeling, sore red eyes, nosebleeds, mild hair loss, very dry skin, fatigue, muscle/joint aches.
All the side effects disappeared a few weeks after stopping Accutane. I'm glad I took it but it was rough at the time. It is very disturbing that some people suffer severe and/or permanent side effects.
~ed x
Posted by adamCanada on August 25, 2005, at 1:13:45
In reply to Re: Accutane Ruined my life, posted by stresser on August 23, 2005, at 21:58:42
theyhappened a month or more into treatment and my lovely family kept forcing me to take it despite me saying i wasnt feeling too well.
Then i did research found out the suicidal truth of how thousands of ppl KILLED themselves from this stupid sick drug. so i stopped taking it.
at that point the depression was in a more mildish level. I was still kind of myself.
But no one gave me the warning of not taking vitamins suppliments until long after stopping it(as it is still in your system).
1 week after stopping accutane (i was feeling better) i took one of those vitamin drinks.
Then it happened in it's largest most intense 50 times multiplied severity and I would wish I was dead for months upon months. I was the goddam happiest guy in the world with so much ahead of me, so many dreams and aspirations, so many hobbies, so many things I would enjoy... Now almost nothing brings any goddam joy to me at all.
Days go by as I try and stay productive and do normal things. I do these things... watch movies, tv, play games, go out once in a while, play cards, sell stuff online in a program (mini business). But you know what? I hardly enjoy any of it. I get very very very mild enjoyment out of any of this. Something is wrong with my brain chemicals. Even with paxil I am nowhere near the man I used to be. I HATE my life. With 15 failed meds I dont know what the hell can help anymore. ECT screwed me up even more as my memory is very poor as a result and perhaps even gave me brain damage as I sure dont feel as intelligent as I used to be. Whatever. I just hope I find some freggin wallet with 10,000000 dollars in it as I hate my life and i dont feel like myself. probably never will.
Posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 5:50:01
In reply to Re: Accutane Ruined my life, posted by stresser on August 23, 2005, at 21:58:42
And is it going to save your life worrying about how your life is now "ruined"?
Posted by poisonedfemme on August 28, 2005, at 6:40:44
In reply to Accutane saved my life., posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 5:50:01
adam i know what you are feeling and how powerless you are to fix your life. there is nothing anyone can do other than to try to stay positive and seek help and try new medication in the hope it maybe able to alleviate some of the side effects and control the depression.
as for uzitopen what a shallow cruel person you are and i have one word for you. KARMA
Posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 16:17:43
In reply to Re: Accutane saved my life. » utopizen, posted by poisonedfemme on August 28, 2005, at 6:40:44
> as for uzitopen what a shallow cruel person you are and i have one word for you. KARMAI'm a terrible, terrible, god-awful person.
I should be more careful to suggest someone not worry about their woes anymore?
I should have them ruminate over their depression?
Frankly, I find such alternatives far more insensitive, and far from supportive in the least.
Posted by gardenergirl on August 28, 2005, at 17:29:07
In reply to Re: Accutane saved my life., posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 16:17:43
Posted by linkadge on August 28, 2005, at 20:20:42
In reply to Re: Accutane saved my life., posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 16:17:43
As if thats why they are here, to ruminate and obsess about the past.
Just being here is a step towards a recovery. Perhaps they are interested to see if anyone else has had a similar experience.
Anger helps people heal. If the anger is justly directed towards the offending agent (no parallels here) then it is justified.
Linkadge
Posted by poisonedfemme on August 29, 2005, at 5:37:09
In reply to Re: Accutane saved my life., posted by utopizen on August 28, 2005, at 16:17:43
if any person comes to a forum and shares the type of pain and desperation adam did..glib comments dont assist him or have any positive input so dont try to twist it..at least have the spine to stand by your sarcasm and undermining words that were nothing in the form of support. he's living in hell everyday and its not you and its not me...mine is bad enough but i can rationalise my problems and physical illness. he was sharing his life in words for strangers to read he doesnt need to be shot down for it and told to look on the bright side...there is none. he has to try to survive and sometimes thats all there is until a new medication helps a little or the body and mind adjust in some way but until then everyday is black he doesnt need nasty people making it blacker. adam message me privately if you want to chat on msn :) i wont be able to fix anything but i can listen....
> > as for uzitopen what a shallow cruel person you are and i have one word for you. KARMA
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> I'm a terrible, terrible, god-awful person.
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> I should be more careful to suggest someone not worry about their woes anymore?
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> I should have them ruminate over their depression?
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> Frankly, I find such alternatives far more insensitive, and far from supportive in the least.
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 29, 2005, at 16:44:46
In reply to Re: Accutane saved my life., posted by poisonedfemme on August 29, 2005, at 5:37:09
> your sarcasm and undermining words that were nothing in the form of support.
It's great to support Adam, but while doing so, please don't post anything that could lead to others feeling accused.
If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
Thanks,
Bob
Posted by poisoned femme on August 30, 2005, at 3:04:11
In reply to Re: please be civil » poisonedfemme, posted by Dr. Bob on August 29, 2005, at 16:44:46
please delete me from this forum
thankyou bob> > your sarcasm and undermining words that were nothing in the form of support.
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> It's great to support Adam, but while doing so, please don't post anything that could lead to others feeling accused.
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> If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
>
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
>
> Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Bob
Posted by zeugma on August 31, 2005, at 20:22:56
In reply to Re: please be civil, posted by poisoned femme on August 30, 2005, at 3:04:11
> please delete me from this forum
> thankyou bob
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> > > your sarcasm and undermining words that were nothing in the form of support.
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> > It's great to support Adam, but while doing so, please don't post anything that could lead to others feeling accused.
Poisoned femme's comments were remarkably civil given the provocation.I don't understand a concept of 'civil' that excludes someone from speaking the truth.
-z
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> > If you or others have questions about this or about posting policies in general, or are interested in alternative ways of expressing yourself, please see the FAQ:
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> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/faq.html#civil
> >
> > Follow-ups regarding these issues should be redirected to Psycho-Babble Administration. They, as well as replies to the above post, should of course themselves be civil.
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Bob
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>
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