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Posted by jay on April 1, 2002, at 23:18:44
I needed money from this job so I could go back to college and get a better job. Now any hope I had is shot to shit, just because of an of asshole employer, who WAS supposed to be a friend of my family.
I've been betrayed, had my only livelihood ripped away from me. To the priveledged and those in power, fuck them. I've got nothing, and swear someone has put a curse on me for the past seven years.
Posted by LiLi80 on April 1, 2002, at 23:54:09
In reply to I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-(, posted by jay on April 1, 2002, at 23:18:44
You broke a mirror didnt you? hehe
Ok i got the perfect job for you. I work for this company that sells promotional advertising. Its only commission, but its goooooood commission. You work when you want. and how you want. There are no quotas on selling, you never have to go to the office, and you can sell from anywhere in the country. You sell to small businesses and companies. You could work one day a week if you want. It depends on how much time you have and how much money you need. I go to school full time and I have this job. look on the internet for any promotional advertising companies near you. Just type in promotional advertising and call up and ask if they are hiring. this kind of job is perfect if you want to go back to school. Hope you can use my tip.
lili
Posted by IsoM on April 2, 2002, at 1:37:03
In reply to I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-(, posted by jay on April 1, 2002, at 23:18:44
Jay, if you've been wrongly fired, isn't there some mediator you can take it up with? I really don't know the legal system in the States at all (if you live there) but here in Canada, it can be challenged & they can be forced to rehire you if it was unfair. Many employers try to get around that by 'laying' the person off & saying things have slowed down, but it doesn't always work.
You can try Lili's suggestion too.
Posted by mair on April 2, 2002, at 7:34:01
In reply to Re: I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-( » jay, posted by IsoM on April 2, 2002, at 1:37:03
Jay
What were the circumstances of your firing? If it was not "for cause" you are probably entitled to some unemployment benefits which aren't great but may help tide you over until you can find something else. Also how old are you?
Mair
Posted by Fi on April 2, 2002, at 10:27:45
In reply to I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-(, posted by jay on April 1, 2002, at 23:18:44
I understand your anger. I also agree with the others re that there *are* other jobs out there, as well as options like benefits or legal action.
I do believe there are crap employers, but I dont believe in curses. And there are good employers too.
I know jobhunting is a hassle- lots of luck with that. Take care.
Fi
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 2, 2002, at 13:37:08
In reply to I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-(, posted by jay on April 1, 2002, at 23:18:44
jay:
i'm afraid i don't have much clear advice to offer, but i do offer consolation. i have felt this way before, and it did get better.
i'm sure that sounds like "blah, blah, blah" right now, though.
will think of you.
- kk
Posted by Gracie2 on April 3, 2002, at 20:05:19
In reply to Re: I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-( » jay, posted by Fi on April 2, 2002, at 10:27:45
A couple of years ago I quit my job because I was such a mess that it was just agonizing for me to keep going. Also I had the feeling they would have fired me before too long, although that might have been just my usual paranoia.
So I went to work for an agency and I'm hired out by the day or week. I kept thinking that once I got to an office I liked, I would apply for a job there or at least leave them a resume.
Well, during these two years I haven't worked at a single place where I would like to stay. Maybe men are better, women can be just awful...all the bitching and back-stabbing that goes on, the office politics, it's enough to make you shudder.
I'm glad I'm not caught up in it.
Sometimes I think that WE are not the screwed-up
ones, that we can't blend in with the rest or stomach all the cruelties that other people so leisurely hand out. So we start to feel isolated and, well, different than other people. Maybe that's not such a bad thing. Maybe we're special.
-Gracie
Posted by Ritch on April 3, 2002, at 23:52:05
In reply to support, posted by Krazy Kat on April 2, 2002, at 13:37:08
> jay:
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> i'm afraid i don't have much clear advice to offer, but i do offer consolation. i have felt this way before, and it did get better.
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> i'm sure that sounds like "blah, blah, blah" right now, though.
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> will think of you.
>
> - kkjay kk,
I have been fired from three different jobs in my lifetime. I may be fixin' to lose my current one due to economic conditions (a lay-off this time). During the last recession I was in the middle of a major depression in the summer and was stuck with two major jobs to finish and stopped showing up at one regularly every day. The const. super started complaining about work not getting finished per their schedule and my boss told me to find something else to do. So, I was without any work (while I was depressed), and made some calls and got some contracts out of town, thought everything was going to work out OK. The day of the accident-there was a big thunderstorm that nailed me on the interstate and I had to pull over and it just *whited-out* and the wind nearly spun my truck around. I got to the job and finished up around 10pm and headed back home (about 170 miles). I was on a secondary divided highway and started to pass another truck in front of me near the top of a hill. I was right next to the guy I was passing and there was a blinding flash of light right in front of me. Before I could finish saying "Oh sh*t!", the vehicle hit me head-on doing about 70mph. I crawled through the bent door's broken glass and fell out in the grass on the median. The guy I was passing was running out to help me across the highway. The people that hit me were wasted drunk and weren't awake just yet-they hadn't realized they were driving in the wrong lanes of a divided highway. Noone got seriously injured, we hit just a little less than perfectly head-on which allowed our vehicles to swoop off different sides of the road at low-speed after impact without rolling. Afterwards in the ambulance I was smiling great big about the whole miracle of the thing. I wasn't pissed at the other driver-I still don't understand that one. Afterwards I made all of my educational plans that were going to get finished-and they did. It was a trippy transition, a dangerous one but a productive one in the end. Your poem about the headlights triggered these memories. Have great good luck with your future plans. Kick back and just observe it all. Weird, I remember just a couple of weeks after my wreck the invasion of Kuwait and then the Chernobyl thing happened. A spacey time for TV viewing in cast and crutches.
Mitch
Posted by Krazy Kat on April 4, 2002, at 11:58:21
In reply to Re: support » Krazy Kat , posted by Ritch on April 3, 2002, at 23:52:05
i haven't worked in an office for almost two years now. it has not been good for my self esteem, but each time i get close to the thought of returning to an office, i get cold feet.
gracie's obersvations re: the politics are very familiar - and i think all offices have that element.
i must get back to work here at some point, but my guess is it will be something unusual, not "traditional". i am very fortunate to have a husband who has been able to keep us afloat during this time.
Posted by jay on April 4, 2002, at 21:38:59
In reply to Re: I just got fired tonight...I have nothing..:-( » jay, posted by IsoM on April 2, 2002, at 1:37:03
Folks, thanx for your deeply empathetic support.
I am gonna tackle a few questions here, if you guys don't mind.First, well it was really a very, very crummy job. (And that is being nice.:-) The pay was *crap*, and I had to work steady nights. So, maybe it is a blessing in hiding.
I could go the 'legal' route, but I think it is more hassle then it is worth. I got a bit of a feeling I was "set up" as a "fall-guy", but I honestly have no desire to bother with them.
I just really would like to go with a job that is in line with my values and beliefs, which is in social work, and which I have a degree in. Yes, I have had jobs that where really nasty in the past, everything from wiping someones bum in a group home, to facing physical danger, but I was always paid well. The job I got fired from was a "nothing" job, really, as a cleaner, and the only reason I took it was to buy some time while I figure out my career.
So, like many of us on here, I gotta hussle and hit the job-hunting pavement. I still don't feel quite "mentally healthy", but I have come some ways.
OK..enough of me yacking...thanks so much all for your support. :-)
Sincerely,
Jay
Posted by Ritch on April 5, 2002, at 9:28:17
In reply to office politics, posted by Krazy Kat on April 4, 2002, at 11:58:21
> i haven't worked in an office for almost two years now. it has not been good for my self esteem, but each time i get close to the thought of returning to an office, i get cold feet.
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> gracie's obersvations re: the politics are very familiar - and i think all offices have that element.
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> i must get back to work here at some point, but my guess is it will be something unusual, not "traditional". i am very fortunate to have a husband who has been able to keep us afloat during this time.
Thanks KK,I thought when I finally got out of college, and got a techie job in a cubicle farm I had it made. I honestly wonder if it is *causing* significant mental illness! I am really thinking about that gravel truck driving job..... :) Hey, just a decent stereo in there...some hot java... :) bring my digital camera along... :)
Posted by jay on April 5, 2002, at 11:17:06
In reply to Re: office politics » Krazy Kat , posted by Ritch on April 5, 2002, at 9:28:17
Man, you know, I'd really love to go to teachers college. I am positive I would be a good teacher, but the whole problem is with money and *not* having a job. I screwed myself with student loans all messed up from the past. Here in Canada, there is very little in the way of "grants" or "scholarships" or such.I am not trying to take away from the young kids, but at 32 years of age, I think I have a far better chance of success than a teen who isn't sure what they want out of life.
Jay
> > i haven't worked in an office for almost two years now. it has not been good for my self esteem, but each time i get close to the thought of returning to an office, i get cold feet.
> >
> > gracie's obersvations re: the politics are very familiar - and i think all offices have that element.
> >
> > i must get back to work here at some point, but my guess is it will be something unusual, not "traditional". i am very fortunate to have a husband who has been able to keep us afloat during this time.
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> Thanks KK,
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> I thought when I finally got out of college, and got a techie job in a cubicle farm I had it made. I honestly wonder if it is *causing* significant mental illness! I am really thinking about that gravel truck driving job..... :) Hey, just a decent stereo in there...some hot java... :) bring my digital camera along... :)
Posted by IsoM on April 5, 2002, at 12:23:28
In reply to Re: office politics..classroom politics..:-), posted by jay on April 5, 2002, at 11:17:06
Jay, I'm in Canada too & I got grants but no scholarships initially. But bursaries are great. You don't even have to have a 4 point average or anything. You only need to apply for them, & if you qualify (simply means you get reasonable grades & have a monetary need), you'll get a bursary - doesn't need to be paid back. You can apply for more than one too & each year you can get them.
Have you also checked out grants & scholarships that are available out there? Either through student services or on-line searches, there's an amazing amount that never get claimed as many people just aren't aware of them.
Posted by Ritch on April 5, 2002, at 23:27:00
In reply to Re: office politics..classroom politics..:-), posted by jay on April 5, 2002, at 11:17:06
Jay,
I think you should go for it. I read somewhere that you should consider all jobs paying you a million bucks a year. Then given that assumption-make your pick. What brought me to action was the car wreck and a therapist asking me things such as: "When you are dead and gone, what would you like to be remembered for? But, I screwed up and considered non-psychic income in the equation and made some big mistakes. It *seems* like you have all of these obstacles, but for the most part they are mirages. You could get your M.S.W, and move into the US (i.e., Arkansas), and you can prescribe meds for psychiatric patients (through a GP MD in a clinic). Hmmm. There are a lot of possibilities out there. My favorite philsophy prof. told me I should be a teacher, but I don't like *establishments*, just can't seem to get away from them somehow....
Mitch
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> Man, you know, I'd really love to go to teachers college. I am positive I would be a good teacher, but the whole problem is with money and *not* having a job. I screwed myself with student loans all messed up from the past. Here in Canada, there is very little in the way of "grants" or "scholarships" or such.
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> I am not trying to take away from the young kids, but at 32 years of age, I think I have a far better chance of success than a teen who isn't sure what they want out of life.
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> Jay
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> > > i haven't worked in an office for almost two years now. it has not been good for my self esteem, but each time i get close to the thought of returning to an office, i get cold feet.
> > >
> > > gracie's obersvations re: the politics are very familiar - and i think all offices have that element.
> > >
> > > i must get back to work here at some point, but my guess is it will be something unusual, not "traditional". i am very fortunate to have a husband who has been able to keep us afloat during this time.
> >
> >
> > Thanks KK,
> >
> > I thought when I finally got out of college, and got a techie job in a cubicle farm I had it made. I honestly wonder if it is *causing* significant mental illness! I am really thinking about that gravel truck driving job..... :) Hey, just a decent stereo in there...some hot java... :) bring my digital camera along... :)
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