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Re: (((Damos)))

Posted by alexandra_k on June 9, 2005, at 22:23:17

In reply to Re: (((Alex))), posted by Damos on June 9, 2005, at 18:44:58

> Wow, not till August that's a while yet.

Yeah. Thank god its a while yet. I have a thesis to write.

>Think you know what I mean though, that it's not just about getting out more, but about giving yourself permission to just do stuff cause you feel like it or want to that's just about and for you, and not about anything you have or need to do.

Yeah. Trouble with me is that I get into my black moods and can't face doing any work at all. Then I really have to pull finger to catch up. That doesn't really leave me with a lot of time to spin my wheels... If I could work dilligently with the time I do have... Do a few hours solid work per day then I could take whole days off to do something fun (though I'd have trouble figuring out what to do). But as things stand I brood for days and then become obsessed for a day or so. So I guess I do have days off. But they are days in bed where I am in a very black place indeed... Doesn't really count as a holiday or rest - but it does get me behind. I don't know. I think that if I go easier on myself then the black patches should get better. But I just don't have the time to go too easy...

> Got to admit that I've become so isolated (babble apart) that I've nearly forgotten what it's like ot just hang out. Not that I ever really knew I guess.

Yeah. I hang out and get high.
Thats all though.
Druggie mates.
Yay.

> I absolutely agree with what you said about the DSM etc, it seems that the more you read the more confused you get and the more things you can convince yourself you could have becaus there is so much that is similar or common to so many of the disorders and the means of differentiating and prioritising them seems so vague and hit-and-miss.

Mmm. There are what Bentall calls 'arbitrary exclusion criteria' which seem to be precisely that. Someone gets dx y unless they also meet criteria for dx z and dx z takes priority so they don't get to be dx'd with dx y. Otherwise people would have too many dx's and the whole thing would start to look like a crock.

Grr.


> I just knew you'd choose to be the box. It's what I would have chosen too. And just how exactly is that precisely the wrong attitude.

Hmm.
Yeah.

> Ah yes your self diagnosis of Factitious Disorder this has me intrigued. Don't worry about being irritable, I don't mind, you just feel free to be as irritable as you like.

Hmm... I think... I think the situation is that if I really decide that I have it... then I have it. If for not other reason than that I'm determined I have it but I actually don't. Being determined to have it means that one gets to have it. It is self-confirming kind of like the cogito. I think therefore I am. I think I have fictitious disorder therefore I have it. Interesting...

:-(
And that is precisely the attitude that has people concluding that I might be 'playing games' and so they have no sympathy and they don't want to waste their time with me.
:-(
It is just that... People won't work with me because of my dx. But to be fair all of the 'related' dx that I could probably equally well be dx'd with don't exactly make them want to work with me either. Most clincians get that they are a related constellation of symptoms and so... well... it is just that the DSM needs to be improved. that is all. it doesn't help me. it doesn't help people want to help me.

and to be fair... psychiatry isn't supposed to be about this sh*t anyway. im neurotic. thats my problem. traditional interventions seem to make me worse :-( maybe therapy just is a luxury for the rich. maybe thats what it should be. i mean... there isn't much indication that it helps all that much. just that people say that they wouldn't do without their t's. but that doesn't mean that their t's are actually helping. just that people think they are. but then if something happens to their t or whatever then they could end up worse off than they would be if they never had a t in the first place.

so...
i don't know
i dont

> Big hugs right back at ya.

:-)

 

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