Posted by chemist on May 9, 2005, at 19:22:38
In reply to Re: chemist: alcohol? how much? » chemist, posted by AMD on May 9, 2005, at 15:14:50
moer asterisks below!!!:
> My current psychiatrist has told me flat out she doesn't deal with drug problems: which means in being honest with her Wednesday, my next appointment, I risk having to find a new doctor. I'm sure she'll have some pointers, but I was very comfortable with her, so it will be disappointing to have to search once more for the right psychiatrist.
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**** i wonder if you can agree to a pact of sorts that is conditional on simultaneous visits to, say, the drug/alcohol folks or going to a.a./n.a. meetings? ****> I woke up today extremely tired, very spaced-out, and generally distressed. Now that I'm at the office, things are a bit better. But I still have that lingering "you f'd up your brain, buddyboy!" in the back of my mind. Mental exercise helps. Mental exercise and some hope. It's the latter that's difficult to scrounge up.
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> I also have this feel I'll look zombified for the rest of my life. See Charlie Sheen. Notice the emptiness in his eyes. Am I headed for the same fate? Am I already there?**** if you are straight-to-dvd, then the answer is ``yes.'' otherwise, no. *****
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> Seventy two hours and counting. Still feeling more-or-less horrible, but hoping in a day or two I'll start feeling better.**** reality check: 3 days after a weeknight out and still (i suspect) dehydrated and all mixed-up. something has got to go, and pronto, if only for the immediate sake of keeping your job, income, and meds steady. ****
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> Seriously, it'd be great to see you! You and Larry are my saviors. My forte is technology, but I've picked up a couple chemistry books given my heightened interest in the subject. So much to learn.**** well, i have certainly been labeled many things on PB, but this is a first for ``savior.'' if you want an excuse that kills two birds with one stone: take an amount of money you would budget for ``casual drinks'' on a monday night and make it a mission to secure a used copy of a recent version of a biochemistry textbook (this assumes 2 or 3 nyc-priced drinks and that voet & voet is fetching $40-$50 used). then start reading.*****
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> With regard to learning, interesting article in today's New Yorker on how "pop culture" may actually be making us more intelligent in certain areas. Complexity of TV programs today (filling in the blanks, etc.), more social interaction with and more challening video games, and so forth. You might find it interesting.**** not to mention anthony lane's acerbic movie reviews, assuming i am not out of date...thanks, will check ****
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> I say no, no way I'll do smack or crank. But the fact that I didn't think twice about the bump of K, and that, now, it's really freaking me out (at least I /know/ how cocaine will affect my body and the prognosis of recovery following a binge), well -- who knows?**** be prepared to face the ``n.y.c. velvet underground heroin challenge:'' what about chasing the dragon? or a small snort? not the same as a needle, after all, and perhaps still the rage with people who ``aren't junkies'' and make lots of $$$: i don't know. i also don't know if one can state with a straight face that one mode of delivery of heroin is somehow more justifiable than another. i figure this is a drug best never investigated, period, although that's just me...***
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> It was definitely K -- but the quantity was rather small, and I didn't feel /any/ effect from it. I wonder if the SSRI or other medications I'm taking actually blocked its effects, much like they block the effects of MDMA (I popped three ecstacy tablets one night with no discernable effect). In any case, given that I certainly didn't have an out-of-body experience, nor trouble standing up, I am hoping its overall influence on my brain was minimal.
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**** i know this is easy for me to pen but: IF you do not bother with ketamine and other drugs that you do need to make an effort to find THEN you will be spared the worry. and by the way, you got ripped-off on the ``MDMA,'' my man....****> Here I'm not sure I agree. I think there are triggers in certain places where I used to indulge a few years ago before it became a problem -- certain people too, who frequent these places. So I think in some way the "scene," as it's lovingly called, somehow triggers in me a desire to take drugs that in other places might not be triggered.
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*** well, sounds reasonable, and familiar: sights and sounds trigger memories and behaviours...next time you get the urge, make it a point to wait until you are inside the velvet rope at the palladium (yes, this is a trick question) before you use any drugs...****> [Disgression: Is it me, or do I sound illiterate in these postings? Clear evidence something was knocked around.]
**** not to me, but i am hardly one to judge....why worry about it? *****
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> I agree on this -- a Google search is about the worst thing I could do. I spend ten hours online searching for "ketamine and brain damage" and, yep, got all the links you did. Where do you think I came up with Olney's lesions? Anyhow, now I'm afraid to search again. I'll just hope your knowledge of this is more accurate than The Good Drug Guide ... I have a hunch it is.**** my ``secret'' to the occasional nugget of fact has been divulged numerous times: www dot pubmed dot org for abstracts of refereed literature; www dot fda dot gov for the gateway to the, um, obvious (?) place one would think one could find actual real information concerning patents, medwatch, and other drug-related info in the u.s.; the physician's desk reference, although you can collect the exact monographs contained in the bound copy for free by going to the pharma's web site and downloading the PDF for ``prescribing information for doctors'' (usually phrased like this, in my experience), a free service that is almost always overlooked (if you want information about celexa, would you believe that forest labs., the manufacturer, has actually set up an entire website at www dot celexa dot com? my first guess was www dot forest dot com, and no dice. and the PDF i promised is two clicks into the website); a bookshelf of new and used science books; your local library - you have so many it is a joke to refer to just one - such as one of the branches at NYU, say, houses journals that can be photocopied and if student status is a problem, settle for the slightly larger accomodations uptown; larry's sites/sayings/etc.; and there are numerous texts that are specific for malady, ranging from those adjusted for the layperson to those that are for specialists in the field (goodwin and jamison's ``manic depression'' is one of my favorites as it is quite literally overflowing with information about everything including manic depression, and this is one of many that should not be judged by its title); a read that is 50% Centrum, 50% synthesis, and 50% east bay flavored to equal 100% wacky and a must-have: ``PIKHAL,'' by shulgin and shulgin (yes, sasha and ann, and the more recent ``TIKHAL,'' shulgin the first); and so on.....***
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> I assume this is bad advice ... what about the 2-3 months to get "hooked" -- is there any basis in fact for that? (I assume, then, that one bump of ketamine would be rather benign -- knock on wood.)***** yes, amd, it IS bad advice to try ketamine or heroin for a 3-month stint to validate something you read on the Internet. let others share their reports with you, hmmm???? *****
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> *** you can ask google or your
> dealer about smack, and you'll get a more honest answer from your dealer; ***
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> Now that's funny, chemist. :-)***** funny and a savior! all in one....*****
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> Well ... sounds to me I need to send a little SIGTERM to my nasty powdery habit.
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> amd***** actually, kill -9 and renice +20 on the booze before you have gone and executed
dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/brain......more UNIX hilarity to follow, i am certain....good grepping, c *****
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