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Re: Adam Eve gained knowledge, but it turned » Tamar

Posted by alexandra_k on September 14, 2005, at 19:49:20

In reply to Re: Adam Eve gained knowledge, but it turned » alexandra_k, posted by Tamar on September 14, 2005, at 19:33:46

Interesting...
:-)

> even if God is omniscient, I don’t think it diminishes the idea of human free will. Even if God knows what choices people will make, they’re still free to make those choices.

Not sure that you quite get the problem...

If god knows what choices people will make, then they aren't free to act differently. If god knew that eve would eat from the tree then eve was not free to refrain from eating from the tree. given that god knows she will do this she HAS to do it and there is no way around this.

If god knows everything that will happen...
Then things just have to run that way.
There is absolutely nothing you or i or anybody else can do to change that...

and god already knows who will get to heaven and who won't
and god already knows who will win the next election
and god already knows what the weather will be like tomorrow
and god already knows how many people will die in new orleans

and there isn't anything any of us can do about it...

except that we must experience, we must endure this eerie feeling that we are making choices when really... the very choices we will make are fixed by facts outside our control (ie by god, or in the secular version by a determinate or even an indeterminate physics)

 

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