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Re: Why is it . . . » sar

Posted by akc on August 19, 2001, at 7:28:03

In reply to Re: Why is it . . . » akc, posted by sar on August 19, 2001, at 1:56:13

> my big testimonies are on eating organic on not shopping at Wal-Mart.

While I don't eat organic, I do share with you the not shopping at Wal-Mart. I view them as the evil empire!

>
> you live in kansas city, right? there must be many AA meetings--could you try a different one?
>

I've gone to a lot of different meetings. I kinda know what I need to do -- it is to go back to this one meeting where I felt at home for a long time. This AA thing isn't going to resolve itself easily right now. There are a lot of issues, and unfortunately, no easy answers -- isn't that always the case? So I think going back to the group I was part of for two years makes the most sense. I have a lot of friends in that group and I do feel more at home there.

> > The bigger problem is that I need to keep my big mouth shut at this meeting.

I still think this is really what I need to do -- I talk way too much. Just look at all my posts on psycho babble! :-)

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>
> personal question, bit i'll go ahead and ask (and you don't have to answer)--what kind of surgery are you having?

A pretty simple knee surgery. I'm just getting it scoped. I've had it done in the past on each knee, so I kinda know what to expect. Only difference is that I wasn't crazy back then.

> again, let me play optimist here and quote the bible (tho i'm not religious): "forgive them, they know not what they do." TO ME it sounds like the woman who said that is caring and concerned enough about you to take it upon herself to not allow you to get depressed but does not realize that it is completely out of her control; perhaps she has not experienced full-blown clinical depression. i think her words are hmmm...pushily caring? like no, AKC, we are not going to let you fall, we REFUSE...

I'm sure you are right. But it came across as controlling. Part of it is also that this woman is just loud. That is always offputting. Today it is much better. I am one not to hold grudges too long (unless you are god or my father -- a whole different thread). I know she meant well. She is just not able to see what it is that I needed.

> i hope you're more awake now, bay. i've been to a few AA meetings and found them too testimonially simplistic, i.e., "and now i've accepted the lord as my personal savior!" i always wished at the meetings that they'd say, "i really feel like having a beer right now, i miss dancing drunk, i miss drinking and smoking" but in my experience AA has been more like church--what do you think?
>

I have a lot of friends in AA who have come from some pretty harrowing backgrounds who have stayed sober, grown-up and become some pretty cool people because of AA. I have definitely been to some AA groups that are more like church -- I avoid them like the plague. I go to meetings where you truly can choose a higher power of your understanding -- though folks struggle a little with letting you struggle with choosing at all (my problem at the moment). I have a lot of mixed feelings about AA. It has helped a lot of people live productive lives. But there are some folks in AA who can take holier than thou attitudes about AA -- drives me nuts. I have to go, so I am trying to make the best of it. I try to be a glass half full type person, so I try to focus on the good things -- and for me, it is the people, the fellowship. There are jerks in AA, but I just ignore them as best as possible. Trust me, I don't do very well at that!

akc


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