Posted by karaS on September 29, 2004, at 22:32:34
In reply to Re: Magnesium and Calcium, posted by JLx on September 29, 2004, at 17:45:44
> > I'm so confused lately by all of the talk about Magnesium and Calcium. I've read so many things that talk about the dangers of too much calcium, not to mention the possible antagonistic effect on depression. I've read all kinds of different things about what the Calcium/Magnesium intake ratio should be. Then of course there's the issue of women being told that they should be taking 1,000-1,200 mg. a day to prevent osteoporosis. George Eby seems to think that's way too much. Who to believe?
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> > I have read parts of Eby's article on magnesium etc. and while there seems to be a lot of good advice, there are other things he says that trouble me and make me question his information. For instance, he says that no antidepressants work aside from the placebo effect. That's so outrageous that I won't spend anymore time on it. Secondly he says that magnesium and calcium compete for absorption - something that Larry recently said was completely untrue.
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> > Anyone here have more insight into all of this?
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> > -Kara
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> Eby's kind of nuts on this subject and I don't think he's really read through his own long essay to see the contradictions that have cropped up as he revises. The last time I read some of his stuff, I thought he had actually mellowed on the subject of antidepressants.
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> It's disgusting that it's so hard to sort through the conflicting info. I've read that dietary calcium is not a factor in calcium kidney stones, for instance. I've read that it IS the cause of kidney stones. And I've read that it actually prevents calcium kidney stones! All from reputable sources. Anyone who's had a kidney stone (as I have) wants correct info to prevent a reoccurence, so this is maddening.
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> For myself, given how I feel and the bits and pieces I've read, I come down on the side of magnesium dominating. I think that there's lots more to preventing osteoporosis than calcium. Boron, for instance, increases estradiol, which is useful for post-menopausal women.> Food for thought:
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> Cal/mag ratio: http://www.enerex.bc.ca/calcium%20ratio.htm
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> Excitotoxins: http://www.smart-drugs.com/ias-excitotoxins.htm
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> JL
JL,Thanks for the links. I am still confused but getting a little clearer. It is maddening though! Looks like even the experts are confused so I'm in good company. I am leaning towards equal levels of calcium and magnesium or no calcium at all but just magnesium. The other thing that is maddening is that all of the articles I've seen are for and about men. They don't deal at all with the special needs of women concerning osteoporosis. GRRRRR!
How awful for you trying to figure out the situation concerning kidney stones! That's such an immediate concern and yet how are you supposed to know what to do?
This all raises another question for me now. I'd like to raise my estrogen production. Should I take additional boron? (above what's in my multiple that is)
Kara
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