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Re: discussion

Posted by bryte on September 1, 2014, at 23:23:30

In reply to Re: discussion, posted by pontormo on September 1, 2014, at 12:24:44

> "Intervention includes both physical procedures by which data are gathered (for example, venipuncture) and manipulations of the subject or the subject's environment that are performed for research purposes. Interaction includes communication or interpersonal contact between investigator and subject. "
>
> As I wold read it, and as I assume Bob reads it, Bob neither collected data through physical procedures, or manipulation of the subject's environment-- ie we never enter any environment created by Bob, that is being "manipulated" by him-- (ie I don't think Babble constitutes an environment ie place in that sense)-


"...the mental health professional focuses on maintaining the supportive milieu" (Hsiung)

The term milieu defines a person's social environment.

"Others would do this privately... that would have the advantage of being less embarrassing." (Hsiung)

"46.102(i) Minimal risk means that the probability and magnitude of ...discomfort anticipated in the research are not greater in and of themselves than those ordinarily encountered in daily life."

What we might disagree on is whether he maintains an environment where he performs more embarrassing rather than less embarrassing manipulations for the purpose of publishing case studies or for the purpose of research.

Either way, research - or case studies - about informed consent obtained for case studies does not inform the adequacy of informed consent for research, including research conducted as part of a service program. Informed consent for research requires more then the principal researcher's opinion about the adequacy of informed consent. The consent process here does not comply with that standard.


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