Posted by Dr. Bob on October 15, 2014, at 13:53:52
In reply to Re: discussion, posted by pontormo on September 1, 2014, at 12:24:44
> An insurance policy means the holder cares enough about those who use a service to provide a means to make an invitee or their survivors whole if they suffer harm as a result of hazards associated with an attraction - especially hazards created by the policy holder.
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> An insurance policy means the holder has contemplated and acknowledged that harm could result from delivery of services the holder offers. An insurance policy means a service providers recognize they cannot competently anticipate every error they might commit that could cause harm or lead to loss of life.
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> bryteThanks for elaborating. What I hear you saying is you'd see an insurance policy as evidence that I cared about Babblers and recognized that I could make mistakes, and harm could occur, here.
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> But I do think on one fundamental, I would disagree with you, which is whether Bob is doing research on "human subjects" as defined by CFR 45 part 46.102(d) and (f).
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> "Intervention includes both physical procedures by which data are gathered (for example, venipuncture) and manipulations of the subject or the subject's environment that are performed for research purposes. ... "
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> pontormoData (quiz results) were gathered, but no manipulations were performed for research purposes.
It didn't even occur to me that a subset of readers could consider collating quiz results to be research on human subjects. I guess it could be argued that users might have wanted to know that their quiz results were going to be collated.
Maybe I should've obtained informed consent to obtain informed consent!
Bob
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