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Posted by bryte on August 31, 2014, at 2:49:29

In reply to Re: discussion, posted by pontormo on August 31, 2014, at 0:32:52

> But how would Bob's having insurance have prevented that, or convinced them to be more trusting?

Insurance demonstrates accountability. Accountability fosters trust.

In so far as Dr. Hsiung wants members to trust his active involvement, communities will inevitably ask him if he is accountable for his actions.

At times, Dr. Hsiung has expressed a desire to trust his community more - perhaps to inspire others to trust the community more. But only he can decide which community he trusts, and how much he will trust the communities of which he is a part.

His community includes graduates of universities trained in various specialties, including experts in actuarial sciences. He has also facilitated establishment of a community that includes a significant proportion of psychologically or mentally at-risk members. Those members often are attracted by the hope of enhancing their efforts to relieve psychological or psychiatric ailments.

Dr. Hsuing at some point added an informed consent procedure to his enrollment process. The procedure alludes to risks involved in participation. The named risks include the potential of receiving bad information, and exposure to sensitive topics.

The risks named in the informed-consent process are foreseeable to the invitee. There may be other, unforeseeable risks. Those can include hazards that result from a premise owner's actions unforeseeable to an invitee.

The named risks do not include a participant's reactions to being told by a doctor it benefits a group to sanction the participant for statements while others who make similar statements do not suffer sanctions. The named risks do not include risks associated with involvement in a research project that is the subject of publications in professional journals without the involvement of a human research protection program.

An HRPP might require a researcher to advise invitees that conversational standards might not be enforced consistently. An HRPP might require notice that a person may suffer reactions caused by inconsistent, public enforcement of standards that place a sole administrator's perceived notion of group benefit ahead of individual's needs - including needs deriving from attachments to the group. An HRPP might advise invitees the group is administered based on one individual's emerging and undocumented sensibilities - sensibilities described as "I know it when I see it."

An insurance policy means experts have assessed risks associated with an activity. It means actuarial scientists, through an insurance agent, have advised the policy holder how much it costs to underwrite indemnity for insured risks.

An insurance policy means the holder cares enough about those who use a service to provide a means to make an invitee or their survivors whole if they suffer harm as a result of hazards associated with an attraction - especially hazards created by the policy holder.

An insurance policy means the holder has contemplated and acknowledged that harm could result from delivery of services the holder offers. An insurance policy means a service providers recognize they cannot competently anticipate every error they might commit that could cause harm or lead to loss of life.

Then the question arises, why do "I" post these concerns? Is it some "...personal reaction or special concern that you might be willing to communicate?"

It is simple compassion. It is a capacity to countenance the suffering of others. Then some might ask, why concern myself with this suffering.

Every day, on average, 10 people in the U.S. die as a result of unintentional, non-boating related drowning. Why would it concern me if I passed by one body of water where one person was drowning?

If I knew waters off of a beach to have a strong undertow and someone was attracting people to that beach but not warning them of the hazard, why would I concern myself with that situation?


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