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Re: Smoothing troubled waters? » Dinah

Posted by zazenducke on July 16, 2012, at 5:51:28

In reply to Re: Smoothing troubled waters? » zazenducke, posted by Dinah on July 15, 2012, at 8:52:12


Dinah I don't know what you are referring to about my manner of address to
Scott. I tried my best to deflect his sarcasm and unkind implications with good humor and refusal to take offense. I have never thought of Scott as someone in authority or as part of the administration. I do not have any particular manner of address toward him. I have not tried to provoke him intentionally. I have felt a bit harassed by him in the last few months but I try to avoid him for the most part and not engage with him and will renew my efforts. I think you missed the mark there Dinah. But I will take your feedback into consideration.

I'm sorry you feel like I am mocking you. I don't see it that way. Maybe it's your attitude toward me?

Would you feel better if Bob came back and blocked me for two years (because you are a former deputy) and rounded it off to one of course? I'm genuinely curious. You said in the past you thought some people should be blocked permanently did you mean me?

It honestly wouldn't matter to me at this point.

Of course this doesn't mean I don't like you or think you are a good person even if you refuse to change your attitude. I'm honestly pretty unlikely to change mine either.


> I was speaking of Scott in general. Many is the time that I've seen him defuse a situation.
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> I daresay even the most peaceloving of people reach their limit eventually when provoked. Your style of address to Scott is pretty consistent. As it is to me, and to most deputies/ex-deputies, and a few other people you seem to connect with the administration.
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> Did I see mocking mentioned in that quote you gave? The one that started
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> "Norwegian researcher Dan Olweus defines bullying as when a person is
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> "exposed, repeatedly and over time, to negative actions on the part of one or more other persons.""
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> You keep mentioning snark and snorts long after their have been any snark or snorts. Why bring up things from years and years ago over and over again long after the events have ended and not been repeated? Out of context and with no provocation? Do you not see that as exposing another person repeatedly and over time to negative actions on the part of another?
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> Even if you believe that a person enforcing site guidelines because they believe in site guidelines is bullying, do you not see that clever remarks by a clever poster made consistently over time fits the criteria as well? Even under your understanding of it?
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> I give you the credit of believing that you are railing against perceived power and believe yourself justified. I give you this credit because I see you posting quite kindly to people whom you perceive as having no power. And because I see you intervening in the same sort of situations I wish to intervene in. But do you not see your own use of power? Do you never question whether it's really ok to treat others the way you do because of how you perceive them?
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> Look in the mirror, zzd. Even your own mirror with your own world view.
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> If I didn't credit you with decent motives, I wouldn't be trying to say this to you. And it could be that I'm wrong to do that. But I wonder if you try to change your attitude towards those you perceive as misusing power, you might learn to feel differently. I'm reasonably certain that Scott would also be willing to try a reset. I've always expressed my willingness to do so. And for that matter, my experience with you has not been consistently negative. I've quite enjoyed some of our interchanges and many of your positive and helpful interchanges with others.


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