Posted by Lou Pilder on June 28, 2015, at 6:15:34
In reply to Lou's Little Shopp-create and develop antisemitism, posted by Lou Pilder on June 28, 2015, at 5:27:11
> > > > > > Personally, I don't believe that Dr Bob is involved in this site on a day to day basis. Perhaps you can take up your case with the Antidefamation League.
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> > > > > I guess he could.
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> > > > > I've recommended that to Mr. Pilder on several occasions.
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> > > > > To the best of my knowledge, Dr. Hsiung has never advocated antisemitism nor committed an antisemitic act. Perhaps some would disagree.
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> > > > > This stuff should really be pursued on the Administration board.
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> > > > > That's about all I have to say on this topic while we remain on the Medication board.
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> > > > > - Scott
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> > > > Scott,
> > > > You wrote, [...To the best of my knowledge (Mr.) Hsiung has never advocated anti-Semitism nor committed an anti-Semitic act...].
> > > > As to what constitutes {committing and anti-Semitic act} or as to what constitutes {advocating anti-Semitism}, that has a generally accepted understanding by what courts of law have rendered opinions as, and how different jurisdiction's laws prescribe and define as hate speech. But the overriding definition used to determine if , let's say, Mr. Hsiung is advocating anti-Semitism here or committing an anti-Semitic act, the question to determine that is if what is in question {is against the Jew}.
> > > > Here we are in a community governed by Mr. Hsiung. He makes the rules. In a community, if the rules are {against the Jew}, then that constitutes anti-Semitism directly by having two standards so that the Jew is held to a different standard that the non-Jews in the community, or anti-Semitism could be advocated by the rule-drafter if the Jew is denied equal protection of the rules. This is exemplified by what Jefferson wrote in {The Declaration}, [...We hold these truths self-evident that all men are created equal...]. When the community leader that makes the rules allows members to post insulting statements against Judaism, or accusations toward the Jews, or dehumanizing characterizations of the Jews, or stereotyping or stigmatizing of the Jews, or posts defamatory statements about a Jew or statements that could insult Judaism itself, and allows those statements to be seen as supportive and that they will be good in the leader's thinking to be good for his community as a whole, then that is {against the Jew}, as myself here, and are anti-Semitic policies on it's face. Mr. Hsiung can post all of his self-made justifications to give himself the allowing of him to do that, and some members here that are easily manipulated to allow him to do so, can be in concert with him to post antismeitism here with impunity as can be seen here.
> > > > The policy of Mr. Hsiung to leave my notifications outstanding where he says that he will act on the notifications of others, is anti-Semitic on it's face because it crerates two standards that denies me, the Jewish poster here, from having equal protection of his rules as that he will not act on my notifications that conmcern anti-Semitic statements which allows those statements to stand as being seen as supportive as he states that being supportive takes precedence and that if something is not acted on him that it is not agasinst his rules. So anti-Semitism not acted on by him is done by {De Jure} which make it his policy. If the policy is against the Jew, it is an anti-Semitic policy and then this site is an anti-Semitic site just as if a city or country denied a Jew equal protection of their laws, that country would be an anti-Semitic country because it denies the Jew equal protection of it's laws that could lead to Jews being victims of anti-Semitic violence. As long as Mr. Hsiung leaves my notifications outstanding, he is denying me equal protection of his rules that could lead to not only myself being a victim of anti-Semitic violence, but Jews all over the world also because readers could see that the anti-Semitic statements being allowed to stand could mean to some that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and all those posters here in concert with them to be validating and ratifying the hate. That is a powerful influence in particular to those readers that take mind-altering drugs in collaboration with a psychiatrist, as a psychiatrist could be seen here as fostering hatred toward the Jews because he further states that by him leaving anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive, he ids doing that because in his thinking by doing that, it will be good for his community as a whole. That is his self-made justification which some jurists could constitute malice and be a pretext for using his site to advance anti-Semitic hate. This is further exemplified by him posting the swastika against his own drafted rules to not post anything about Nazis or the holocaust and refusing to delete it or post a repudiation to the post directly where it is originally posted. The swatsika posted by Mr. Hsiung is a backward vision of psychopaths and posted by him could escalate hatred toward the Jews as readers could see a psychiatrist posting the swastika and refusing to delete it. The posting of the swastika by him reveals a broader view of Mr. Hsiung's vision of his community that will be good for the whole. It could trigger anitsemitic hostility all over the world which a subset of readers could think that Mr. Hsiung is attempting to publically devalue Jews. Hopefully readers will not pretend that they just don't see what is plainly visible here and stop Mr. Hsiung and all those in concert with them from having their victory. In [ admin, 428781 ], here is where Mr. Hsiung did not abide by his own rules and will not post his tag line to please be civil to the anti-Semitic statements which started the fire of hate here that is still burning. Anyone that wants to justify Mr. Hsiung leaving the horrible dehumanizing accusations toward the Jews to be seen without his tag line to be civil, or pretend that you just don't see, please post your justification for such here and then I will have the opportunity to respond to you accordingly.
> > > > Lou
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> > > Friends,
> > > Who has believed my report? And to whom has it been given here to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity? And how many posts will it take for readers to see what is plainly visible?
> > > The hatred toward Jews lives here to be seen as supportive and worse, that it will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole to be seen that way. This is not new but an old tactic from the middle ages carries by the flames of hate to this day burning here producing the flames of hate perpetually that could foster hatred all over the world to hate groups seeing that a psychiatrist allows anti-Semitic propaganda to be seen as supportive by him and ratified by the silence of up to 6 deputies all recruited to implement the wishes of Mr. Hsiung.
> > > One of the most insidious tactics to spread hatred toward the Jews is to use a Jdew or Jews as scapegoats for one's blaming a Jew or Jews for the real or imagined ills of a state, country, business, club, community, workplace ect.
> > > Here we have myself, the Jewish member trying to purge out from here the old hatreds toward the Jews allowed to be promoted by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record and those in concert with them by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record allowing anti-Semitic propaganda and scapegoating a Jew, myself here, by refusing to act on my notifications that allow hatred and scapegoating to be seen as supportive.
> > > Let us examine what is in the following post from here and the offered links within the post. When scapegoating is allowed to be promoted as that in Mr. Hsiung's thinking it will be good for this community as a whole, a psychiatrist's thinking can be a powerful ally to terrorists to seek out others as scapegoats and commit mass-murder, even blaming their victims for bringing disease to their community. This ancient tactic, called {poisoning the well} has been used against Jews for centuries. And those of you that want to put your trust in Mr. Hsiung as he asks for you to do in that whatever he allows here to be seen as supportive will in his thinking be good for this community as a whole, I ask you that pretend that you just don't see, and those that here that can see what is plainly visible here, that as long as you allow the swastika to be posted here by Mr. Hsiung, and scapegoating to be allowed to be justified by Mr. Hsiung, and members allowed to post anti-Semitic propaganda with impunity here, this site will continue to produce the flames of hate. And those flames could consume you. Let us examine this post closely by Scott. Also notice Mr. Hsiung's rational for allowing Scott's statement about me by reading the thread.
> > > Lou
> > > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20140902/msgs/1075146.html
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> > Friends,
> > Be not deceived. The use of deceit and lies do not annul the fact of what is plainly visible here in that Mr. Hsiung is allowing Scott and others to defame Judaism and insult the faith of Jews and me as a Jew here by using ancient tactics of Jew-haters that stoke the furnace of hatred against the Jews to come from here to go all over the world in the homes of those with internet access and those that hold the internet in their hands.
> > One of the ancient tactics of Jew-haters is to claim that Jews are not saved and worse, they have to convert to Christianity to be saved. That tactic promulgated during the dark ages and carried by the flame of hate here, fostered by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, is anti-Semitic on its face for it is against the Jew, claiming that Judaism can not lead Jews to salvation, assigning the Jews to everlasting torment in hell according to the anti-Semitic agendas of many mainstream Christian sects throughout history. Jews were subjected to torture or burning at the stake if they did not convert to Christiandom by those sects. Yet today, this site upholds the ancient backward hate promulgated here by Scott here and can be seen as being supportive by Mr. Hsiung and any deputy of record as Scott's post insulting to the Jews is allowed to be a perpetual flame of hate here until Mr. Hsiung posts his tag line to please be civil to the post by Scott where it is originally posted. His statement is insulting to Jews and leads a Jew to feel put down/accused all against the rules here and if nothing is done to the statement, then readers can think that it is not against the rules here, and worse, that it will be good on Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole to be seen as conducive to the civic harmony and welfare of the community.
> > That is Mr. Hsiung's vision of his future community as being good for the whole. And if you are so easily persuaded by Mr. Hsiung to put your trust in him as he asks of you, remember who else said the same thing in his vision of his country about the Jews.
> > And notice that Mr. Hsiung uses a lie to attempt to substantiate Scott's defamation of the Jews and me here as being supportive. Let us look at Scott's post where he says that I have to give up Judaism by converting to Christianity to be saved, which could mean that he thinks that all Jews are not saved unless they convert to Christianity. And look at Mr. Hsiung's attempt to allow the statement as civil by the tactic of evasion by putting up a false statement that readers could think is true because he says to trust him. His statement is false that says that [...Christians convert to Judaism as much as...], so why would you want to trust him? This is how anti-Semitism is created and developed. It is done by deceit and lies and the Great Deception which Mr. Hsiung's prohibitions to me here prevent me from posting here. By allowing Scott's post against the Jews and me as a Jew here, readers could think that Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record are validating the claim by Scott that is against the Jew, leading readers to think that Jews are inferior to Christians because they are not saved, which could dehumanize and stigmatize Jews from people reading here and could lead those that understand how anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community, to conclude that this is an anti-Semitic site. That is how the flames of hatred toward the Jews are spread, from sites like this where a psychiatrist leads readers to think that anti-Semitism is supportive and in his thinking for it being allowed to be seen that way, it will be good for his community as a whole. History shows otherwise.
> > Lou
> > http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130903/msgs/1055904.html
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> Friends,
> Be not deceived. For Scott says that Mr. Hsiung has never advocated anti-Semitism or committed an anti-Semitic act. But what constitutes committing an anti-Semitic act here or what constitutes advocating anti-Semitism?
> Anti-Semitism means {against the Jew} as one method to determine if what is in question constitutes an anti-Semitic act of fosters anti-Semitism. If readers here are led by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record that are recruited by Mr. Hsiung to carry out his wishes, to manipulate the content here so that the site here is against the Jew, then that fits what Scott says he does not see. The content can be controlled by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies by allowing hatred toward me to be allowed to be seen as supportive, for Mr. Hsiung states that being supportive takes precedence and worse, that if something is allowed to stand, he allows it {so that it will be good in Mr. Hsiung's vision for this community as a whole}. This means that readers could conclude that whatever is standing un repudiated by Mr. Hsiung or his deputies or record, that even anti-Semitic propaganda or hatred toward me standing will be good in Mr. Hsiung's thinking for the community as a whole for it to be seen that way. In the following, defamation toward me is allowed to stand where it is originally posted and Mr. Hsiung refuses to post his tag line to be civil to the post. but it is much more than that. For the slander is against me, the Jewish member, and what is said about my character could apply to all Jews, which could encourage other posters to think of Jews as being the character of what is allowed to stand here about me. This is one way anti-Semitism is created and developed in a community to arouse ill-will toward a Jewish member, denying the Jew equal protection of the rules, defaming Judaism itself. The allowing of the defamation toward me by the poster with impunity creates a mind-set to readers that Jews are inferior members here that are allowed to be mocked and taunted and ridiculed, all against all known psychiatric priniciples that say that putting down or accusing someone is not conducive to sound mental-health. And for readers to see that I am allowed to be ridiculed and mocked and taunted with impunity here by Mr. Hsiung and his deputies of record, they could think that anti-Semitism is supportive and will be good for them, for in Mr. Hsiung's thinking, he does what will be good for the community as a whole. I say that those that are understanding of European Fascism, already know what the consequences that occurred to Jews when the leader allowed hatred toward the Jews to be allowed with impunity which made them think that the state was encouraging anti-Semitic hate. This is known as state-sponsored anti-Semitism.
> Scott say that he does not se it. Do you?
> Lou
> http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20130702/msgs/1048569.htmlFriends,
To create and develop anti-Semitic hate can be done in a community in more than just allowing what is against the Jew to stand as being supportive here. Here is a partial list of other tactics used in the historical record that tyrants bent on defaming the Jews have used to foster anti-Semitic hate that would be good in their vision for their community as a whole. Scott says that he can not see these. Can you?
Lou
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/admin/20080719/msgs/844279.html
poster:Lou Pilder
thread:1079663
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/20150520/msgs/1080036.html