Posted by Lou Pilder on August 18, 2012, at 13:35:07
In reply to Lou's reply-wtrovlyph, posted by Lou Pilder on August 16, 2012, at 20:37:37
> > > How do you define the term "mind-altering"?
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> > > What are the properties of a medication that would lead you to characterize it as being mind-altering?
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> > > Are major depresive disorder (MDD) and bipolar disorder (BD) mind-altering illnesses?
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> > > - Scott
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> > Scott,
> > What has been revealed to me concerning {mind-altering} in relation to chemicals that induce such a state, is a topic that I appreciate that you have innitiated a discussion concerning that.
> > What is in comparison is the {natural mind} compared to the {drug-induced}altered mimd.
> > Let us call the {natural mind by the letter P
> > Let us call the drug induced mind by the letter S
> > Now the natusral mind could be referred to as the mind that one is born with. This mind is a {flesh} mind, as being that we are born with this mind in the flesh. This mind in other languages is referred to as the {carnal} mind.
> > more...
> > Lou
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> Scott,
> Now we have a natural mind and a drug-induced altered mind. Yet there is another mind.
> It has been revealed to me that we are different from the animals. This difference is that we have a {spiritual-mind} whereas animals do not. This spiriatual mind is within us and we can actuate the carnal mind or the spiritual mind. But the spiritual mind is like a seed and needs water and light for it to germinate. This 'water" and this "light" I am prohibited from posting about fully here due to prohibitions posted to me by Mr. Hsiung.
> Now this may make more sense when what I have been posting here is examined. I have been posting about how one can overcome adddiction and depression by {human achievement} or by {divine accomplishment}. The {human achievement} is with the carnal mind, and by divine accomplishment with the spiritual mind.
> Now if you add a drug to the carnal mind, there are particular events that could follow as alterations of the mind, such as thinking about killing one's self and/or others, even mass-murder, that have been revealed to me, and addiction, life-ruining conditions and death.
> Now it has been revealed to me that we were once spiritual beings and then transformed into carnal beings at birth. With this transformation, the spirit is retained as a seed. I came here to tell others how this seed can germinate and flourish into a healing power so that one can overcome addiction and depression and death. You see, it has been revealed to me that one in depression/addiction is in a wine-press. And I know the one that treads it. And when one has their spirit born from the seed within them, they receive a new heart, a new spirit, a new mind so that the one treading the wine-press makes them free. The freedom from depression and addiction is accomplished by the impregnating of the water and the light, which is truth. And it is the truth that makes one free.
> Lou
> more...Scott,
Now let's look at more concerning the minds here. One is the drug-induced mind-altered carnal mind.
The question concerning mind-altering goes back thousands of years. Then, some people wanted to alter their minds with drugs to go into a hallucinatory state of mind. There were plants that could induce a hallucinatory state such as particular mushrooms and other plants. I am prohibited from posting here by the prohibitions posted to me here by Mr. Hsiung as to what the scriptures that the Jews use that show what is prescribed to those taking mind-altering drugs and the fate of those that traffic in those drugs being as to the makers of the drugs or the ones that give those drugs to others. Be advised that one could go to the admin board here and see more concerning this prohibition to me and the rationale that Mr. Hsiung uses to make that prohibition to me. One could also see how Judiasm is (redacted by respondent) by Mr. Hsiung as I think could save the lives of people taking these drugs as well as what the bible says concerning the prescription of eternal destiny. People then could make up their own minds of what Mr Hsiung, and also his deputies, think {support} means.
Now this mind-altering thousands of years ago was also to alter the thinking of the one taking the drug in other ways than to hallucinate. One way was to create rage and a murderous mind-set into a person. One drug was hashish which is a word that comes from another word and where we get the word {assassin} from. A lot of psychoptropic drugs now are agreed upon by the FDA that they can induce suicidal and possibly homocidal thinking. And another way a drug can induce a mind-altered state is to induce psychotic thinking. A lot of drugs have listed in their PI that the drug can cause psychosis and hallucinations. Now in the psychotic state, if one is in a community that leads others to think that Jews are inferior, one could have delusional thinking and think that they are one in a master-race and seek out to murder Jews, thinking that it would be good for the community as a whole, and this happened before 1933 and continues to happen after 1945. You see, sometimes a community's leaders leads its people to think that Jews are inferior to some others, or that people other than Jews are inferior to those others and then the people that are the "others" can have a (false) induced thinking of superiority toward the people that are not them which could put Jews and others that are not them, in a situation where they could become victims of anti-Semitic violence or anti-other victims of violence.
Now there are other ways that psychiatric drugs can induce a mind-altered state.
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Lou
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