Posted by iforgotmypassword on May 23, 2012, at 5:44:30
In reply to Re: watch it with amphetamines » iforgotmypassword, posted by g_g_g_unit on May 23, 2012, at 2:04:03
i don't find alcar very stimulating, but that is me, i don't find much stimulating until it's plain awful (e.g. methylphenidate). my second choice might literally be creatine. people also take coq10 and nadh, tho these kind of puzzle me. i need to do more research. b-vitamins in general might be good to take, b6 intake is supposed to have preventative effect vs parkinson's.
antioxidant-wise i take vit c, a lower dose of cheaper lipoic acid, and melatonin (fantastic antioxidant, does not become pro-oxidant apparently like others can, and people with pineal cysts are particularly prone to neurological insult leading to tardive movement problems, which feels to me like a bit of a canary, but then again it would to me.)
this is all largely a cost and convenience related scenario for me. i cannot think straight enough to buy things online, so i buy stuff when i am buying food.
caffeine and DRIs are neuroprotective, but they can be hard to tolerate and (ironically) the latter seem to cause tolerance harder to mitigate than amphetamines with memantine, tho since methylphenidate is an nri, and that's basically means dri in the prefrontal cortex, where tolerance begins as that is where glutamatergic feedback is triggered.
also, since memantine basically prevents the brain from reporting "too much dopamine" don't assume lesser amounts of amphetamine mean less neurodegenerative risk, since we are talking about the same amt of dopamine if you are responding ideally, and memantine while neuroprotective (vs glutamatergic overload, and likely alcohol-benzo withdrawl), in the way we are talking about involves concentrations in lab animals that are almost obscene.
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