Posted by CaptainAmerica1967 on October 21, 2011, at 15:40:57
In reply to Re: opiates and major depression » Chairman_MAO, posted by europerep on October 20, 2011, at 15:30:27
Yes, most physician look at you crazy if you suggested buprenorphine for TRD even some psychiatrists unless they have their specialized license to RX buprenorphine because they'd know about correlation or previous studies on bup. and mood
I just wished insurance companies would pay for buprenorphine, Subutex or Suboxone as off label like they do plenty of other drugs, ie, Inderal for migraines, trazodone as a hypnotic. I pay money for insurance (maybe I shouldn't buy part D for medicine, but I cannot buy any other insurance because TRD is a pre-existing condition so Medicare is all I can buy), and take 4 meds (Parnate, Klonopn, Subutex, Xyrem (Xyrem for REM sleep disorder), and the insurance company only pays for 1 (Parnate) with th rest denied.
I have osteoarthritis so the insurance approved liquid buprenorphine in the vial, Buprenex and I was going to use it like in the study and put it in an intranasal bottle or put required drops underneath my tongue but the Buprenex Vials total amount required for 4 mg day for a month was 3X as expensive than Subutex 4 mg day/month and I even got Suboxone approved off label for 4 mgs day/month, but Suboxone with insurance payment was still more expensive than Subtex 4 mg day/month for me so I just pay $100 for the Subutex a month. Last spring, 6 months ago when I first started taking Subutex, it cost $70 for 4 mg/month. In several years, I wonder how much I'll be paying? The drug companies almost charge what they want as addicts cannot go witout buprenorphine. I tried going off and got really super depressed this summer and went right back on. Need to start exercising gradually again, and not try to be HEMAN in the gym with running, weights and total workout, but it was the hard workouts that gave me the endorphin antidepressant relieve but only lasted a couple of hours so I had to exercise 2-3X day for effectiveness.
Thanks for all the responses in my previous posts as we all learn from each other to help one another overcome our various problems; just waiting for the day when scientists can at least learn how to control moods completely even if they cannot fix the root cause. Most conventional medicine is treat the symptoms anyways unless you're taking an antibiotic for an infection.