Posted by violette on August 25, 2010, at 7:23:39
In reply to I hate mindfulness, posted by linkadge on August 24, 2010, at 13:16:18
Link-I've read alot of what you write on this forum and I'd guess you might have OCPD traits (I recognize them as I have some too and read extensively about it)? 'Mindfulness' is sort of the arch enemy of an OCD personality; I never knew what it meant in the psychology field, but I do know that 'meditation' in general represents letting go of control of your thoughts/emotions.
I noticed after I developed OCPD traits in response to a traumatic situation (or maybe they were there already and got activated from emotional trauma), mindfulness suddenly seemed annoying to me and then I always skipped over reading about it (and still do). Before then, I was a spontaneous person, had no 'adjustment' difficulties or problems with change, and had practiced meditation. Having OCPD traits is now one of my worst symptoms-because for one it is much more clear to me now that my depression lifted.
The problem with OCPD traits is that when you try to control your thoughts/emotions too much for too long as that's what people do unconsciously, your brain gets weak and tired, and you end up with attention difficulties and lack of control of your thoughts-the very opposite of what one perhaps unknowningly, is trying to do. Then you get diagnosed with ADD and/or OCD anxiety. You can have OCD anxiety on top of OCPD traits-that's when things get really rough. Even though the inattention, procrastination, and lack of focus can be a trait of OCPD-many people just get treated for ADD or OCD anxiety instead. Then they come here looking for meds since those do not work good, when really, it's the OCPD traits that need addressed.
I don't even know if conventional psychiatrists would even pick up on it because OCPD is totally different than OCD. If someone thinks they may have OCPD trait(s) and wants to get better, but not want the therapy--I'd get a psychiatrist who is trained in psychoanalysis, but not do the therapy and see what they pick up on. I think they would be better with medication management regardless of whether or not you do the therapy-because if they are experienced, they would know which meds work for certain personality traits better than many psychiatrists who don't know alot about psychology.
And OCPD is one of the most common PDs...You don't have to have a PD to have some of the traits, but during times of stress, the traits come out more...Anyay, this personality trait is an asset to many as it helps create alot of good scientists. But it can be a curse because it can get much worse over time if not addressed. Your brain can only do this for so long, and people who have those traits will usually end up with depression later in life even though those same traits serve to help with accomplishments while young or younger.
A person with OCPD traits is probably not going to respond to 'mindfulness techniques' as core issues-the source of the symptoms-have to be addressed first. Only then will your mind lose its grasp over your thoughts, words, and behavior and you'll be free.
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