Posted by CaptainAmerica1967 on December 13, 2008, at 14:09:48
In reply to Re: Any bodybuilders on MAOIs? » Mickapoo, posted by ParnateStarted2008 on December 12, 2008, at 21:14:54
Thanks...I've used CLA (it's present in dairy-milk products and works via some other enzyme breakdown of fat I believe). 1996 I think I spent several thousands in supplements as I was trying to win Bill Phillips Muscle Media Contest.
I've never had a MAOI crisis either on Nardil (not much of a drinker of beer/wine, but have had without a problem..but I love pizza-am a lactovegetarian-because of the inhumane slaughtering of animal..and I never wanted to test the cheese although fresh mozzarrela on frozen pizza is fine I guess..I can easily eat a whole pizza myself) that I took for about fifteen years, but went off in 2003-2004-reformulation(?) as it stopped working for me and I went on Cymbalta since then until this past Monday when I decided to go on Parnate. So far my appetite is down as Parnate is more related to amphetamine, structurally or chemically similar, and people tend to loose weight on Parnate more so by not being hungry.
I loved the weight gain with Nardil as I've always been ripped since my childhood (had abs at birth-my Dad was a genetic freak so to say and bigger than me) and the Nardil just helped me pack on the muscle mass...I usually weigh around 240lbs and am 5'10" with very little fat. I've used ever known body building supplement, but I think the best way to pack the weight no more than 5-10 sets per body part..only major mass building exercises with low-medium reps in explosive contraction (better Growth Hormone release) for the positives with slow decent for the negatives to recruit the most and bigger muscle fibers-fast twitch or red muscle fibers as compared to the slow-white muscle twitch fibers-endurance(look at sprinters legs compared to distance runners) with very high weight around 70%-90% of max (my personal bests have been; Bench-595lbs, Dead Lift-685lbs, Squat-775lbs) and two days of recovery prior off after each workout prior to entering the gym again except lighter cardio on off days like cycling and swimming and stretching-I can do splits, eating a high glycemic meal directly after workout to get the insulin spike effect to help muscle recovery..my body parts are so sore/broken down that it only amounts to training each body part every 1-1/2 weeks (like Mon Thur Sun Wed Sat Tue Fri repeat) although I get synergistic effects on other days...I always seem to have muscle bound body builders (definite juicers) coming up me and asking me what I'm taking (what type of anabolics), and I say nothing and they ask how I got the way I did and I explain my workout..body building for mass is not an endurance sport and I only spend 45 to 60 minutes at the most in the gym per workout as cortisol levels spike after 1 hour and has negative effects on muscle recuperation, and generally do my weight lifting in the evening as cortisol levels are lower and one gets the recovery benefits right after in the nights sleep release of growth hormone-GH and testosterone becomes the highest after sleep in early mornings.
My only problem with Nardil (will have to wait to see with Parnate)was the postural hypotension or dizziness with the heavy squats. Nardil has twice the postural hypotensive/anticholinergic effects compared to Parnate as well as twice the orgasmic dysfunction. More sedation with the Nardil as it effects GABA receptivity and I never had sleep problems on Nardil, but the with Parnate, I'm more wide awake as it doesn't effect GABA, but does effect Dopamine more..maybe a better sex drive as a result, but again I'll have to wait and see as I've only been on Parnate for five days.
Other than caffeine for lipogenic effects you might think about green tea, siberian ginsing or rodiola or the Chinese/Tibetian herb cordycep (catepillar fungus). I've used Modafinil in the past as well and also GHB both when it was available as a supplement and in RX form as Xyrem.
Regards,
Jeff
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