Posted by Shelly Dylan on October 19, 2008, at 20:31:58
In reply to Re: Need Help Obtaining Suboxone » Shelly Dylan, posted by cowan78 on October 11, 2008, at 18:54:55
> I get very touchy with this sort of subject, so forgive me in advance if I come across as rude.
> I've been through 10+ years of opiate addiction and after many unsuccessful attempts at quitting was finally able to do so with Suboxone maintenance. This is NOT a drug for depression, it is a drug used as an out patient treatment for opiate/opioid dependency. I know off label use is rampant and in many cases is justified, but I do not believe off label prescribing for buprenorphine is. Ritalin, Dexedrine, Adderall etc. I would rather see used for deprssion than opiates. A minor study linking bupe with improvement in depression is not justifiable reason to prescribe this drug for your case. The ramifications of long term opiate use will far outweigh any immediate effect, and tolerance will hit fast and hard. And no doctor will continue to climb up an opiate dose to treat anything beyond chronic, severe, unremitting pain.
> You do need to alleviate your depression, and I recognize that, but opiates have destroyed civilizations and inumerable lives way more than they have benefited mental anguish. VNS is actually a MUCH safer procedure, IMHO, as is ECT. Please, please, please do yourself a favor and get off of the 'only opiates can help' mentality...noone, myslef included, wants to see the nightmare your walking straight into and depression will seem like a fuzzy dream from the bottom of the canyon that opiates will put you in.I've been through twenty years of severe debilitating depression. Forgive me if I come off sounding "rude" but it seems like there is a bit of "favortism" shown toward addicts while people with mental problems slip through the cracks. Why and or how do you presume that you need Suboxone but I don't? What's the neurobiological difference between my brain and yours? You think my depression will ever seem "like a fuzzy dream" in comparison to "the bottom of the canyon?" I've lived in hell for a long time and the "canyon" is starting to sound pretty good or maybe you think suicide is better? Opiates never "ruined" civilizations and/or lives. People ruined civilizations and lives by allowing themselves to be controlled by opiates. By the way, don't cite me a "minor or major study" about how "addiction is genetic and a disease that you can't control" when you don't believe depression could be a neurochemical imbalance of the endogenous opioid system. Hey, if opiates are so bad why don't you come off that maintenance dose of Suboxone? By the way, I'll never "drop the only opiates can help mentality." The Suboxone is helping you isn't it? By the way, how can you suggest that a schedule two stimulant is less addictive than Suboxone?
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