Posted by okydoky on October 25, 2008, at 16:56:11
In reply to Re: Need Help Obtaining Suboxone, posted by Shelly Dylan on October 8, 2008, at 9:44:41
I would stop seeing a doctor that will only address my problem with his/her pet treatment or pet diagnosis. You definitly need to change pdocs. I have been through this mistreatment many times. I suggest you run from this doc fast.
> I've suffered from severe refractory depression for over 21 years. The only thing that works are opiates. They make me feel normal not high. I can't find a doctor who will prescribe them to me thanks to our "wonderful" DEA. What do I do? I need help. I don't want to live the rest of my life depressed. I don't understand how physician's, in part thanks to the government, can refuse to give me medicine that will help my condition. Someone, anyone, please help.
Shelly,
I just read the entire thread and besides berating you the rest was pretty much "hijacked" as they call it here.
I don't know if I can help you.
I was curious what your experience with opiates was that leads you to believe the only thing that works are opiates ? Do you believe one opiate would be more effective for depression than another?
What medications have you tried generally, speaking? Have you tried ones not in the US?
I too have had trd for over 25 years and tried just about every class of medication including many from other countries both legal and illegal. I also went through two series of ect 12 on one side and 6 bilateral, neither time had any efficacy. ONe series ws from a doctor who treated everyone with shock.
The psychopharmacologist I used to see was very helpful in helping me navigate both what medications might have the potential to help me based on past trials of mine and his superior knowledge of how the medications chemically worked. My experience with him and other pdocs is that a psychopharmacologist was of much more assistance to me. When I started having pain from a physical ailment he was quick to prescribe Oxycontin stating that it would probably help my depression. I do not recall all that he said but he was quite aware that opiates had a lot of potential for depression..
I do not know where you live but I would suggest finding a psychopharmacologist or a research psychiatrist or perhaps an older pdoc , all in my experience are more open to using unconventional ADs and are more knowledgeable of the pharmacology. Have you searched for a different pdoc, maybe you could find one that would be of assistance? I have read on this site that others believe that opiates are used much more by psychiatrists than is conventionally believed because the ones that use it do not broadcast it.
Were you prescribed opiates in the past for pain? If so perhaps the doctor who prescribed them would be willing to prescribe again for depression.
I talk a too much but wanted to tell you some of my background so that you could better evaluate anything I might say or suggest.I found that Suboxone made me very anxious (or perhaps aloud for existing anxiety to rear its ugly head) was much more depressed on it as compared to either Oxycontin, Fentora, Morphine or Oxymorphone. (My entire opiate experience) Well that is not completely true, Demerol would be my drug of choice if I wanted to feel high. Then again I quite liked Cocaine so much I went into rehab. I get the gusto the person taking Suboxone has about addiction. People working on addiction have a one track mind in my experience. I went to AA and NA meetings almost twice a day for a year after I got out of rehab. Perhaps it is what they/we need to deal with the addiction. What do you say we give them a pass:)
For the 5-6 years I took it I never had a problem with addiction, abuse or tolerance of Oxyconin. I still do not know if people are using Suboxone as an AD because it has less potential for addiction or because it has more potential as an AD?
Hope things work out for you,oky
I sent a bit in babble for you too. Hope you do not mind. Trying to help. IF it is unwanted just don't respond and sorry if this is the case.
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