Posted by KayeBaby on July 5, 2007, at 16:16:10
In reply to Re: dextroamphetamine causing depression?, posted by revaaron on July 2, 2007, at 22:56:29
> > I believe Lyrica's effect on sleep is largely
> > responsible for my remission.
>
> Just out of curiousity, why did you stop taking the Lyrica?***FAT FAT FAT! Made me quite fluffy. Also-due to the short half-life a real up and down effect. Dosage had to be variable for me and I got this....Lazy-hyper-lazy-hyper effect and was dorking with the dosage all the time, opening caps. It made me feel like a drug addict.
I also was terrified of withdrawal as whenever I tried to quit early on I felt really bad. Physically and mentally.
But, after a year the beneficial effects started to wane and when I discontinued-no withdrawal. I guess it just ran it's course.
I would not hesitate to return to it if I felt I needed it.
>>Have you tried phenibut or picamilion as alternatives?**No. But, I am taking namenda which seems to share some properties with Lyrica such as better sleep, great anti-anxiety and also the weird sometimes energizing sometimes lazifying effects.
>>Not quite what you were talking about, but I've read reports by a couple folks who said that Xyrem (pharm GHB) was basically their AD/HD+fatigue 'cure,' which is interesting because unlike the CNS stims it goes after the root of the problem (for some folks) rather than addressing the symptoms. A shame it's so expensive and otherwise illegal. Not surprising, considering how sleep apnea or other sleep disorders can be a direct cause of AD/HD symptoms.
**I am going to mention this to my doc next week. He is excited by GHB. Thanks for reminding me. Quality sleep is elusive and also key for me to function well.
> > I am on EMSAM almost 3 months...
>
> Ah, I was looking into selegiline some, though as a nootropic/ADHD-helping drug more than anything else.**Yep. and it does help with that. It also demonstrated to me that I have a pervasive dysthymia that is complicating the whole issue.
>But then again, after the usefulness of the dextroamphetamine waned after such a short time I started looking into a million other things outside the realm of traditional CNS stims. :)
>
> > **You should check out vinpocetine-Ginko
> > probably won't sustain that feel in you. Vinpo
> > might be a better fit.
>
> I think you're right- I'll check it out.
>
> > ** I have had excellent luck with NOW and the
> > price is right.
>
> Funny you should say that- I ended up buying NOW magnesium carbonate (a veritable bucket of it for $8) and some L-Tyrosine. I took 450mg of the magnesium and 500mg L-Tyrosine around lunch time when my morning dose was wearing off and started to notice a difference a few hours later, before I took my afternoon dex dose, and when I did the effectiveness seemed to have returned! Going to see how it works for the next couple of days and I'll get back to you, but so far it's looking good. In a good way, the high feeling the dex was giving me for a week has pretty much left, leaving me motivated and attentive. I'm glad I asked- thanks a ton Kaye!**You are very welcome. Give the SLO-Mag a try. For whatever reason this was the bomb for me. Maybe because of the slow release there was no period of eing too relaxed for daytime. I also take cal/mag before bed.
I'm so happy that some of this info crowding my brain could benefit someone!
Thank You,
Kaye
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> revaaron
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