Posted by willyee on June 1, 2006, at 23:01:08
In reply to Strong comment, posted by willyee on June 1, 2006, at 13:45:19
I appreciate the responses,and i am surprised i really was expecting more of a argument in oppostion to my feelings.
Reading the various posts,ill try to answer what i can,
first,one poster explained the difference between myself and a street junkie is.......unlike a street junkie im not getting high or buzzed.
Well my response to that is i no longer feel im above them,i feel instead they are just uneducated,and many i believe dont know about nuero chemicals,dont have acess to a computer,all they know is they dont feel right,and so they self medicate.And i do know and have seen first hand people who take what we consider "recreational" drugs,alcholol,pot,opiods etc and do not get high or blasted.
As i stated my brother prob has social issues as i do which i believe run in my moms side of the family,and he holds down a very succesful job,he is pitying me now trying to help me,not the other way around.
He has a car,a apartment,a social life etc,i have less than half of the things he has and when i look at his life and when he comes here so upbeat,i want to just break down.
He is able to be reliead on in emergenycys to be there by my family,im the one known as the shaky unstable one,im the one who can no longer hold a job,no longer hold a social life,i have half the things he has.
Drugs are not a wonder answer period,but there are defintaly people who can use what we deem as BAD drugs theputicaly,or at least to the same exent we use pharm meds.
On the same note,there are many people who do get buzzed off pharm meds,it goes both ways,many people will work there docs till they have a combo that simply zombies them out,ive seen this.
So i guess my point is in the long run to believe a drug is better because it went through a six week fda trial,and is prescribed,is in my own personal opinion falling into the box the industry wants us to be in,nice and tight.A mind altering drug is a mind altering drug,nothing changes that.The thing that makes the difference is how the individual taking it,be it script or non,uses self control in its use.
People with abuse history and personality will likly abuse any drug what so ever.
I am not anti-drug,or pro drug,i just feel lied to and decieved into using them.I wish i knew more before i did,cause in all honesty i truly dont believe i would have.Also last i see a comment about counsleing,here is my view on that,if we are told by the industry that we are dealing with pyhsical CHEMICAL disturbances in the brain and thats why we need these drugs,then what logic does on the same hand stating we also need TALK therapy as well.It to me lacks rational thinking.
If its a chemical issue,and u know this and sure of it,fine,but then dont try to convince me that i also need therapy,no other pyhiscal condition,ESPECIALY a neuroligcal one,i.e sizures,migraines,brain tumors,alzhiemrs,demntia etc will benifit from talking,so how does the conclusion that depression a "brain imbalance" is the one exception that will.
Oh i beielive the answer is talk therapy can make pyshical changes in the brain,come on are we really to believe this?
Can a autsic child change there brain patterns from talk therapy?Cna a migraine sufferer find reliaf from therapy sessions?
This form of thinking is absurd,and feeding into it is what allows this industry to get us in both ways,for the medication chage,and for the therapy charge as most offices require both a therapis and MD to be seen.
This whole therapy/drug combo lacks any logic,im sorry but it does,a broken leg is a borken leg,no matter how many times u talk about it,a dementia patient is a demtia patient,because something is happening in the brain,and talk therapy is not a logical medical treatment.
If depression/anxiety and emotional disorders are truly chemcial illness,than it is down right dangerous and unethical to have a paitent told to use talk therapy,when drugs is what they truly need to help them.
Now again im not saying there is no value in talk therapy,i think talk therapy can be a great thing,i dont believe u need a professional for it,as i dont believe u can STUDY the mind and behaviour of a person as this is something far to unique and precious,however whether it is a professional or simply a close friend,letting things off ur chest,and out can help termondously for some people,this is not limited to any form of emotional disorder,but on the same note not everyone wants or needs to reflect on there feelings,this is an invidual thing,for some digging into a persons past can help,for others it can cause tremdous trauma.
I wouldent mind taking these drugs if i dident feel so betrayed latly,the way i have been treated by ER,my pharmacy,p docs,etc when they were the ones who introduced me to these drugs in the first place has truly firghtened me to death.I dont need therapy,i have no underlying emotional issues,i wasnt abused,etc,my issue is my mind is such a scrambled mess from drug use i can function as a normal person anymore,and talk therapy cant do a lick for this.
I dont know who to trust any more!
poster:willyee
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