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Re: MAOIs » ed_uk

Posted by yxibow on May 9, 2006, at 17:25:47

In reply to Re: MAOIs » yxibow, posted by ed_uk on May 9, 2006, at 15:35:13

> Hi J
>
> >it seems to come up quite often
>
> Yes, I was feeling annoyed :(
>
> >wanting to feel euphoria
>
> You don't know what I was wanting to feel - you never asked. Where do you draw the line between feeling better and feeling euphoric? How do you know I was euphoric?

I don't know, Ed, we laid this to rest in email and its coming out again, its getting obsessive, honestly and with a caveat of neutrality because I know I'm going to be hit again over the head...

But you're right, I have no idea if you were feeling better, feeling better because of euphoria, or feeling euphoric.

>
> >due to diversion
>
> Diversion refers to the act of obtaining prescription medications to sell. People don't 'divert' OTC medications.

Codeine phosphate used to be OTC but one would have to sign a book, typically, in different states. I'm talking about diversion in the US. That is still diversion from its intended purpose and the intended purpose of what I would label as a nebulous nonexistant category at the time of cat VI. It no longer exists here so its a non issue. I'm viewing things from here, not there, Ed.


And oh boy do people divert OTC medications, thats why some states have now made Sudafed a prescription! I mean blast all, you have to get your doctor to sign a mommy and daddy note. *** meth addiction. Enough said.


If someone figures a way to divert OTC levmetamfetamine that will go too. Not that its a particularly used nasal decongestant.

>
> >You're right, companies spend billions on antipsychotics, but the reason is clear -- the schizophreniform disorder spectrum (and BP I as well) is the largest psychiatric problem by percentage and while the vast majority are catatonic (unfortunately), there are violent behaviours that lead to awful endings like air marshalls taking down people who turn out later to be mentally ill.
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> Antipsychotics are indeed useful in the treatment of schizophrenia. Nevertheless, I wouldn't be at all surprised if most prescriptions for APs (especially in the US) were off-label. Most people with schizophrenia are not violent, however seriously ill they are.

"Catatonic" "Vast majority." That means "most all people." I just said it!

Pharmaceutical companies make vast profit on atypical APs - they are greatly overpriced. Research is expensive, but it does not justify the ridiculously high costs of atypical APs.

Every new medication that comes out in the US, ed, costs between $2 and $3 a pill. You can complain as we do till the cows come home but only Canada and the UK have caps. Do I think granisetron should cost $50 a pill?? But it has to do partly (aforementioned) with supply and demand, and as far as schizophrenic medication, there are so many variations in disorders and so many caveats of EPS and TD and the like that have to come in to play that they are just plain expensive to produce.

I dont like it more than anybody else but on the other hand I wouldn't want a end-all happy pill for antidepression that cost only $1 million to produce to come to market. That would scare me and suggest that they tested it on like 2 patients.

Anyhow. Go petition the FDA, but you're not likely to get anywhere.

Cheers

-- Jay

 

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