Posted by Larry Hoover on December 10, 2005, at 20:17:01
In reply to Re: Dr. Tracy on SSRIs.. » Larry Hoover, posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2005, at 19:18:40
> And I was about to believe what she said! What about this years flu shot and the mercury?
There is not enough mercury in a flu shot to cause any concern. You get more mercury from your amalgam fillings every time you drink a hot beverage. If mercury worries you, take selenium. It binds mercury permanently, ending any health threat. End of story.
> This is something I have heard from mother's of children with autism. That innoculations containsed mercury. And their children were fine until the innoculations.
Coincidental correlation. The supposedly offending innoculation, the MMP, is usually given at about 18 months of age. Autism spectrum disorders are usually diagnosed no earlier than around the 24th month. It's natural for human brains to say A caused B, when in fact, B simply followed A.
If you look at massive epidemiological studies of all children in Denmark (where they record everything about everybody), there is no evidence to support a link. They stopped using Thimerosal (mercury-preservative) vaccines in 1990, and autism rates continued to climb. Abstracts, and full-text link, at bottom.
I'm sorry for anyone having to deal with developmental disorders like autism, but innoculations are not to blame. In fact, there is not one single medical advance of greater benefit to mankind than innoculation. Seen any child in an iron lung lately (polio), or dying from heart failure (rheumatic fever), or deaf or blind from meningitis? Well, you will, if people don't start innoculating their precious children again.
> At this point I don't know what to believe.
I trust the science, myself. Child mortality used to be 50%. It's not, any longer.
> So is she saying that because I take luvox I am taking PCP?
That's what she's saying you're as good as doing, yes.
> Boy this woman is confusing me.
She scares me. That anybody might listen.
> Fondly, Phillipa
Lar
Abstracts re: lack of association between thimerosal and autism
JAMA. 2003 Oct 1;290(13):1763-6.
Association between thimerosal-containing vaccine and autism.Hviid A, Stellfeld M, Wohlfahrt J, Melbye M.
Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology Research, Statens Serum Institut, Copenhagen, Denmark. aii@ssi.dk
CONTEXT: Mercuric compounds are nephrotoxic and neurotoxic at high doses. Thimerosal, a preservative used widely in vaccine formulations, contains ethylmercury. Thus it has been suggested that childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccine could be causally related to neurodevelopmental disorders such as autism. OBJECTIVE: To determine whether vaccination with a thimerosal-containing vaccine is associated with development of autism. DESIGN, SETTING, AND PARTICIPANTS: Population-based cohort study of all children born in Denmark from January 1, 1990, until December 31, 1996 (N = 467 450) comparing children vaccinated with a thimerosal-containing vaccine with children vaccinated with a thimerosal-free formulation of the same vaccine. MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Rate ratio (RR) for autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders, including trend with dose of ethylmercury. RESULTS: During 2 986 654 person-years, we identified 440 autism cases and 787 cases of other autistic-spectrum disorders. The risk of autism and other autistic-spectrum disorders did not differ significantly between children vaccinated with thimerosal-containing vaccine and children vaccinated with thimerosal-free vaccine (RR, 0.85 [95% confidence interval [CI], 0.60-1.20] for autism; RR, 1.12 [95% CI, 0.88-1.43] for other autistic-spectrum disorders). Furthermore, we found no evidence of a dose-response association (increase in RR per 25 microg of ethylmercury, 0.98 [95% CI, 0.90-1.06] for autism and 1.03 [95% CI, 0.98-1.09] for other autistic-spectrum disorders). CONCLUSION: The results do not support a causal relationship between childhood vaccination with thimerosal-containing vaccines and development of autistic-spectrum disorders.
Pediatrics. 2003 Sep;112(3 Pt 1):604-6.
full-text link: http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/112/3/604
Thimerosal and the occurrence of autism: negative ecological evidence from Danish population-based data.Madsen KM, Lauritsen MB, Pedersen CB, Thorsen P, Plesner AM, Andersen PH, Mortensen PB.
Danish Epidemiology Science Centre, Department of Epidemiology and Social Medicine, University of Aarhus, Denmark. kmm@dadlnet.dk
OBJECTIVE: It has been suggested that thimerosal, a mercury-containing preservative in vaccines, is a risk factor for the development of autism. We examined whether discontinuing the use of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark led to a decrease in the incidence of autism. DESIGN: Analysis of data from the Danish Psychiatric Central Research Register recording all psychiatric admissions since 1971, and all outpatient contacts in psychiatric departments in Denmark since 1995. PATIENTS: All children between 2 and 10 years old who were diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971-2000. OUTCOME MEASURES: Annual and age-specific incidence for first day of first recorded admission with a diagnosis of autism in children between 2 and 10 years old. RESULTS: A total of 956 children with a male-to-female ratio of 3.5:1 had been diagnosed with autism during the period from 1971-2000. There was no trend toward an increase in the incidence of autism during that period when thimerosal was used in Denmark, up through 1990. From 1991 until 2000 the incidence increased and continued to rise after the removal of thimerosal from vaccines, including increases among children born after the discontinuation of thimerosal. CONCLUSIONS: The discontinuation of thimerosal-containing vaccines in Denmark in 1992 was followed by an increase in the incidence of autism. Our ecological data do not support a correlation between thimerosal-containing vaccines and the incidence of autism.
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